Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
I put in 35 as the age of me and my spouse, in my example.
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The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
In contrast, the Federal Employees Health Benefits is a great deal.
As a retiree, I'm paying close to $400/mo for Aetna family plan (Uncle Sam picks up a portion). Next open season my wife and I will get single plans saving us $50/mo total and lowering our catastrophic from $10K to $5K each.
Why can't Uncle Sam do the same thing for non Feds?
In contrast, the Federal Employees Health Benefits is a great deal.
As a retiree, I'm paying close to $400/mo for Aetna family plan (Uncle Sam picks up a portion). Next open season my wife and I will get single plans saving us $50/mo total and lowering our catastrophic from $10K to $5K each.
Why can't Uncle Sam do the same thing for non Feds?
unofan
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Because socialism, and I'm only half kidding.
You're right, it could. But then you go and vote for the party that will never let it happen.
Handyman
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
Of course Minnesota saw health care premium increases in 2015.
The state had the cheapest health care premiums - #1 - in the country in 2014. http://khn.org/news/10-least-expensive-health-insurance-markets-in-us/ And Minnesota has the best quality of health care in the country every year. In years past, state insurance companies mispriced their services due to the exchange expecting hot competition. And because big insurance companies can't compare on price with smaller insurance companies like UCare...they're withdrawing from the exchange where people can shop side by side.
(In 2014) The lowest monthly silver premium in the country is offered in the Minneapolis-St. Paul region, where a 40-year-old will pay $154 a month for a PreferredOne plan. Just across the Wisconsin border, that same level plan — but with a different insurer and other doctors and hospitals — costs nearly three times as much.
Do you shop for insurance on MNSure every year? I do and my insurance premiums went down last year.
Of course Minnesota saw health care premium increases in 2015.
The state had the cheapest health care premiums - #1 - in the country in 2014. http://khn.org/news/10-least-expensive-health-insurance-markets-in-us/ And Minnesota has the best quality of health care in the country every year. In years past, state insurance companies mispriced their services due to the exchange expecting hot competition. And because big insurance companies can't compare on price with smaller insurance companies like UCare...they're withdrawing from the exchange where people can shop side by side.
(In 2014) The lowest monthly silver premium in the country is offered in the Minneapolis-St. Paul region, where a 40-year-old will pay $154 a month for a PreferredOne plan. Just across the Wisconsin border, that same level plan — but with a different insurer and other doctors and hospitals — costs nearly three times as much.
Do you shop for insurance on MNSure every year? I do and my insurance premiums went down last year.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
They arent going to believe you...they are programmed not to.
They arent going to believe you...they are programmed not to.
ScoobyDoo
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
I've written both my Senators about this debacle of a law. Especially for the Middle Class who always takes everything in the ***.
I've written both my Senators about this debacle of a law. Especially for the Middle Class who always takes everything in the ***.
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
How are they gonna charge full rates west of the St. Croix? Nobody would be able to pay.
The rates are also skewed by the fact that so many demented and diseased Minnesotans think they are "just fine." Look no further that this forum for proof of that.
How are they gonna charge full rates west of the St. Croix? Nobody would be able to pay.
The rates are also skewed by the fact that so many demented and diseased Minnesotans think they are "just fine." Look no further that this forum for proof of that.
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
I'd love for you to share that letter with us. The over/under on references to conspiracy theories must be a dozen, and that's assuming your letter was only one page long.
I'd love for you to share that letter with us. The over/under on references to conspiracy theories must be a dozen, and that's assuming your letter was only one page long.
Slap Shot
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
If you equate "just fine" with "we are better than you always" ok.
If you equate "just fine" with "we are better than you always" ok.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
I'd say that's the definition of narcissistic personality disorder! If Martin Skhreli, BS can diagnose Hillary with Parkinson's just by observation, I would say Fade, MS can make that call, and it's got more weight.
brookyone
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
Well, on the correct side of the St. Croix we don't stick our arms in the wood chipper to see what happens...like so many of my western Wisconsin friends like to do after a couple Leinenkugels.
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
Uh-huh. He sure forgot to be explicit about that if that's what he really meant. Classic bait-and-switch.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
Yeah, the president and his party sold it as an immediate reduction in overall premiums paid once the benefits began to kick in AND a downward bend in the future premium rate increases.
Yeah, the president and his party sold it as an immediate reduction in overall premiums paid once the benefits began to kick in AND a downward bend in the future premium rate increases.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
What do you know, a company is using bureaucracies about health created over the past 125 years to create a monopoly on an emergency injector. And yet, a bunch of you wackos want to put your entire trust with health and well-being decisions into these same bureaucracies...
What do you know, a company is using bureaucracies about health created over the past 125 years to create a monopoly on an emergency injector. And yet, a bunch of you wackos want to put your entire trust with health and well-being decisions into these same bureaucracies...
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
I have determined based on my own experience and what I have read and all the insurance companies that are bowing out that all this law was in the long run was a middle class tax increase to help pay for the poor and uninsured.
I have determined based on my own experience and what I have read and all the insurance companies that are bowing out that all this law was in the long run was a middle class tax increase to help pay for the poor and uninsured.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!
You didn't see that from the start? Now ask the younger generation (just older than 26 when the law passed) how they feel about the older generations' situation in this law, about how the young had their premiums jacked up while the old had theirs reduced - at least initially, then they went up with everyone else's.
You didn't see that from the start? Now ask the younger generation (just older than 26 when the law passed) how they feel about the older generations' situation in this law, about how the young had their premiums jacked up while the old had theirs reduced - at least initially, then they went up with everyone else's.
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