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The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

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They have the power to reject pricing requests. The state receives the data from the companies as to why those companies believe their products should be priced as such. If the state's reviewers (auditors) believe that the company(ies) in question is looking for an egregious profit or should instead expect a loss, then they are bound by law to reject the proposed pricing changes.

My point isn't at all that any of this should be a surprise to anyone. It's that people actually expected the product to inherently change because the Feds grabbed more control of what the product does. The only way to control price increases the way the Obama administration promised while selling the PPACA to the public and politicians alike is for the Feds to increase the direct subsidies to the end consumers. Anyone who's studied economics will tell you that then this will relieve pricing discipline press from the supplier, and prices will further rise at unsustainable rates. Or you let the consumers suffer the pricing increases.

In essence, we're repeating exactly what we've done with college tuition assistance plans over the past three decades, only now we're applying it to a product that people consider more serious and with fewer legal options for the consumers to use.

Most people don't understand at all how rate-setting works. The insurance company sets rates at the beginning of the year based on an educated guess; they really have no way to know what their experience will be: while they set rates at the start of the year, actual claims experience is only known at the end of the year. What has been happening is that
-- some people have waited until they get sick, sign up for coverage, then once they recover they drop their plan again.
-- more sick people have signed up than anticipated
-- fewer young, healthy people have signed up than anticipated
-- consequently, claims experience has been much worse than the start-of-year rates would have indicated.

One of the biggest problems with PPACA is it caps annual profits while it leaves annual losses uncapped. Just imagine, if instead of mandating a minimum annual loss ratio of 85%, the law had mandated a five-year rolling average loss ratio instead. That would have allowed some pricing stability over time. Instead, we have insurers chasing their tails; as every rate increase merely exacerbates the negative spiral outlined above.

Between risk assessment, coverage levels, and loss ratios, you can only mandate two of the three; basic mathematics requires that the third seek its own level. the law tries to mandate all three independent of each other: mathematically impossible. it is inherently unstable and never will work unless one of these three areas is freed from statutory restrictions.

There is a fairly simple and straightforward fix available, actually but the way the politics are, the Dummycrats won't entertain even the slightest hint of a single revision and the Repugnicans are too fixated on repeal to bother offering up an interim fix.


Frankly, I think Roberts deliberately sabotaged the law: by making it an optional tax when he declared the mandate unconstitutional under the commerce clause, he (a) allowed people not to sign up for coverage with a clean conscience, and (b) made it impossible to increase what once had been the "penalty" without new legislative action because all tax increases must originate in the House. He clearly understood that the mandate was the only way the law might possibly work and he removed that possibility.
 
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Minnesota's insurance rate hikes are will be between 50-67% for 2017.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/09/30/individual-health-insurance-rates-2017/

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Minnesotans shopping for individual health insurance will be seeing a hike in premiums next year.

State officials announced the rates for 2017 Friday morning. The Minnesota Department of Commerce and MNSure said the rate increase ranges from 50 to 67 percent in the individual market.

The announcement comes ahead of the 2017 enrollment period, which begins on Nov. 1.

Premiums are going up because health insurance companies didn’t expect to cover as much as they have.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

I'm not sure where else to put this, but I saw this article about former UND hockey player Adam Calder who is living in England. I thought the references in the article to the fact that the NHS won't cover all of the treatment that Adam needs to fight his cancer was interesting, and a slight cautionary note to anyone who thinks the single payer plan is going to be magic solution.

http://www.coventryblaze.co.uk/news/blaze-launch-support25-campaign-for-adam-calder-20160929
 
I'm not sure where else to put this, but I saw this article about former UND hockey player Adam Calder who is living in England. I thought the references in the article to the fact that the NHS won't cover all of the treatment that Adam needs to fight his cancer was interesting, and a slight cautionary note to anyone who thinks the single payer plan is going to be magic solution.

http://www.coventryblaze.co.uk/news/blaze-launch-support25-campaign-for-adam-calder-20160929

It'd be nice to know why the treatments aren't covered. If it's because they aren't approved by whatever Britain's equivalent of the FDA is, that's different than not being covered because of cost or not being on the right list or something endemic with single payer.

I'll just say that my wife was prescribed medicine for her pregnancy that wasn't covered by insurance because it wasn't FDA approved for that usage (it's approved as a fertility treatment, but not to maintain a pregnancy). So to save about 60%, we went thru a Canadian pharmacy who actually shipped it to us from the UK. No issues whatsoever and way cheaper than going to any local pharmacy.
 
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I read through the article and I had two thoughts.
-- I saw no indication that they tested whether political affiliation/patient interactions were correlated with geography: maybe doctors in private practice in the suburbs both affiliate one way and interact with patients one way, while doctors in urban clinics affiliate another way and interact with patients another way. What they viewed as a correlation might merely mean that both of the indicators they measured correlate with a third variable that is more fundamental than what they looked at.
-- it seems like they might have the correlation backwards. Maybe doctors who have a particular world view about their patients' personal responsibility for their own future health might also tend to affiliate in a certain way politically. The article was written as if it were the other way around, which makes little sense (unless you are one of those who view everything as primarily political).
 
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Sure be nice if someone in Government was working to find ways to fix the problems with the current law. But, why do that? We needed to pass it to find out what's in it and now that we've found out we're taking it in the wallet.
 
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Sure be nice if someone in Government was working to find ways to fix the problems with the current law. But, why do that? We needed to pass it to find out what's in it and now that we've found out we're taking it in the wallet.

Has your employer forced you to the state exchange? If so, ouch!

Interesting perusal for the State of MN's official 2016 rate increase release (last year's proposal for this calendar year). Page 12 begins the discussion of the "Effective Rate Review Process," and how the state determines if these are fair rate increases or not.
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

Has your employer forced you to the state exchange? If so, ouch!

Interesting perusal for the State of MN's official 2016 rate increase release (last year's proposal for this calendar year). Page 12 begins the discussion of the "Effective Rate Review Process," and how the state determines if these are fair rate increases or not.

No, not yet. But my employer and Blue Cross Blue Shield did stick me with a 37% increase last year. I wonder how much it will be this year?
 
Re: The PPACA Thread Part III - Let's have a healthy debate!

Interesting perusal for the State of MN's official 2016 rate increase release (last year's proposal for this calendar year). Page 12 begins the discussion of the "Effective Rate Review Process," and how the state determines if these are fair rate increases or not.

From your link:
Rates must be justified both in terms of the value of the benefits that consumers receive for their premiums and in terms of the insurance company’s ability to pay expected medical claims costs and fulfill its obligations to the consumers who purchase the company’s plan. By law, rates can be neither excessive (with premium costs exceeding the value of benefits) nor inadequate (with premium income that is insufficient to cover the cost of medical claims).

hmm..sounds familiar, somehow... ;)

In the "Need for Reform" section, several of those proposals are merely a disguised way of saying "Maybe we should go back to what we had before, it seemed to work better."
 
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We'll **** up single payer. America used to do everything better than the rest of the word. Now we do nothing better.

Now hold on. We do something better than the rest of the world: < bleep > things up.
 
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From your link:


hmm..sounds familiar, somehow... ;)

In the "Need for Reform" section, several of those proposals are merely a disguised way of saying "Maybe we should go back to what we had before, it seemed to work better."

Yup. People refused to believe us earlier, and there it is in the state's commerce department official release.
 
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This paragraph of the Times article summed it up well.

Andrew M. Slavitt, the acting administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said the administration was taking steps to ensure “a stable, sustainable marketplace” — by increasing payments to insurers for “high-cost enrollees” and by curbing any abuse of “special enrollment periods” by people who sign up for coverage after they become sick. In addition, federal officials are redoubling efforts to sign up young adults.
 
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