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The PPACA - Implementation Phase I

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Old Pio said:
What's terrible is your fairly consistent refusal to provide attribution for your posts. Not all of us memorize these libstain websites.
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What's really terrible is that you can't refute anything in the article and have to resort to insults.

ScoobyDoo said:
It's the end of America. Don't you dare think any different.
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I'm sure the only reason those Republicans want ObamaCare funds is so they can get first hand experience of how horrible it is.
 
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Priceless said:
What's really terrible is that you can't refute anything in the article and have to resort to insults.



I'm sure the only reason those Republicans want ObamaCare funds is so they can get first hand experience of how horrible it is.
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No, they want it because it's money. Repubs love money.
 
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Priceless said:
What's really terrible is that you can't refute anything in the article and have to resort to insults.



I'm sure the only reason those Republicans want ObamaCare funds is so they can get first hand experience of how horrible it is.
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You should always provide attribution. And no amount of spin can change the fact that you frequently don't. Why? Since when is suggesting you play by the rules an "insult?" And why can't you just resolve to do better in the future? These aren't "liberal" or "conservative" standards. They are universal standards. Why do you think you're too important to abide by them?
 
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Old Pio said:
You should always provide attribution. And no amount of spin can change the fact that you frequently don't. Why? Since when is suggesting you play by the rules an "insult?" And why can't you just resolve to do better in the future? These aren't "liberal" or "conservative" standards. They are universal standards. Why do you think you're too important to abide by them?
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If I thought it would matter, I'd be happy to attribute my posts. However, you're going to find some reason to complain anyway, so it really doesn't matter.
 
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Priceless said:
If I thought it would matter, I'd be happy to attribute my posts. However, you're going to find some reason to complain anyway, so it really doesn't matter.
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You're wrong here. And too full of yourself to just admit it. This is about you, not me.
 
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I have to agree with OP here. Who is your source, Priceless? "You'll just complain" is never an excuse to fail to cite, it merely smacks of "I'm right, you're wrong".

That said, the level of discourse here on both "sides" has taken a huge step down over the past few weeks.
 
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Priceless said:
Sounds terrible.
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I have to cut them a break on this. I don't think it's completely hypocritical to argue against grants in general while lobbying to get existing grants allocated to your district.

Say you happened to be against a proposed "bridge to nowhere" that you happened to live near, but despite your objections, the bridge got built anyway. Since it's already built, I say you can use the bridge and still look at yourself in the mirror with a clean conscience. The money is spent whether you use the bridge or not. Refusing to use the bridge would just be cutting off your nose to spite your face.
 
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LynahFan said:
I have to cut them a break on this. I don't think it's completely hypocritical to argue against grants in general while lobbying to get existing grants allocated to your district.

Say you happened to be against a proposed "bridge to nowhere" that you happened to live near, but despite your objections, the bridge got built anyway. Since it's already built, I say you can use the bridge and still look at yourself in the mirror with a clean conscience. The money is spent whether you use the bridge or not. Refusing to use the bridge would just be cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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But then you'd be making a trip to nowhere. :p

Wouldn't you agree that it's slightly hypocritical to, on the one hand, say ObamaCare is socialism that will destroy America while also saying it provides money for a “crucial initiative to achieve a healthier Houston/Harris County” and "improve the health and quality of life of area residents"? If they weren't saying how terrible the ACA was that would be one thing, but they continue to demagogue about the law to the point of shutting down the government.
 
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Priceless said:
But then you'd be making a trip to nowhere. :p

Wouldn't you agree that it's slightly hypocritical to, on the one hand, say ObamaCare is socialism that will destroy America while also saying it provides money for a “crucial initiative to achieve a healthier Houston/Harris County” and "improve the health and quality of life of area residents"? If they weren't saying how terrible the ACA was that would be one thing, but they continue to demagogue about the law to the point of shutting down the government.
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I thought your type was able to understand nuance, gray areas, and the like. I can applaud the Nazi's (tip o' the hat, Godwin) specific position on animal cruelty even though I think they were awful people in general. Just because one clause out of 2700 pages does a good thing does not mean that they have some moral obligation to like the whole law.
 
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LynahFan said:
I thought your type was able to understand nuance, gray areas, and the like. I can applaud the Nazi's (tip o' the hat, Godwin) specific position on animal cruelty even though I think they were awful people in general. Just because one clause out of 2700 pages does a good thing does not mean that they have some moral obligation to like the whole law.
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The same goes the other way around, too. I'm all for Congress getting together to amend PPACA. It's too bad that one side is refusing to come to the table, so you can't do anything. Of course, at some point, they'll come to the table, but do what the cylons did at that table in the pilot of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica.
 
LynahFan said:
I have to cut them a break on this. I don't think it's completely hypocritical to argue against grants in general while lobbying to get existing grants allocated to your district.

Say you happened to be against a proposed "bridge to nowhere" that you happened to live near, but despite your objections, the bridge got built anyway. Since it's already built, I say you can use the bridge and still look at yourself in the mirror with a clean conscience. The money is spent whether you use the bridge or not. Refusing to use the bridge would just be cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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I gotta disagree here. If you've made opposition to this the centerpiece of your political existence, don't go around asking for benefits from it. That's a grade A hypocrite and the kind of person who's causing so much of the problems in the Congress nowadays.

If you recall the VP debate last year, alleged GOP Wonderboy Paul Ryan got destroyed by Uncle Joe Biden when he whipped out two letters Ryan wrote to him asking for stimulus funds for his district. If you don't think stimulus funds are working, why are you asking for them? Same concept applies here.
 
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New state-run health-insurance exchanges have largely fixed their technical problems, marking a sharp contrast with the federal government more than a week after the centerpiece of the Affordable Care Act opened for business.

only 14 [states] chose to fully run their own, leaving the federal government responsible for the other 36.

The federal exchange at HealthCare.gov has been plagued by problems from opening day, including error messages and long wait times.

State officials appeared to be more nimble than the federal government.
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Source.
 
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There were no enrollments in Delaware in three days. North Carolina got one enrollee. In Kansas ObamaCare was unable to report a single enrollment. A senior Louisiana state official told me zero people enrolled the first day, eight the second.
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so says Peggy Noonan at least. grill her about her sources (which "senior Louisiana official"?)
 
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EXCLUSIVE: Just 51,000 people completed Obamacare applications during the website's first week, out of tens of millions of Americans in 36 states
Obamacare's main signup engine attracted just 6,200 new customers on its launch day and 51,000 after the first week.
MailOnline's sources are two Health and Human Services workers who have access to the data as it's crunched
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ted-insurance-applications.html#ixzz2hV2eQKOm
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