unofan
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"Probably?" For an actuary, your ability to determine odds appears to be fairly bad. I pray you don't work for any of my insurers.
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The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
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"Probably?" For an actuary, your ability to determine odds appears to be fairly bad. I pray you don't work for any of my insurers.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
You can give out M.D.s until you're blue in the face, but unless those graduates are willing to actually set up practices in this country, you haven't actually made any progress. We've already seen testimonials from doctors that post on this forum about how the need for more administration to ensure regulation compliance is one of the primary drivers of cost. Not to mention, your ilk chasing them around in order to find cause for a lawsuit makes for even higher costs, but that's another story for another day. These practitioners are either stopping to practice or refusing new patients because the cost associated with taking them on, when you factor in the aforementioned expenses, is too high to keep the customer without the customer going to either another practitioner or the subsidized public health system (at least NYS has this, I don't know about other states).
You can give out M.D.s until you're blue in the face, but unless those graduates are willing to actually set up practices in this country, you haven't actually made any progress. We've already seen testimonials from doctors that post on this forum about how the need for more administration to ensure regulation compliance is one of the primary drivers of cost. Not to mention, your ilk chasing them around in order to find cause for a lawsuit makes for even higher costs, but that's another story for another day. These practitioners are either stopping to practice or refusing new patients because the cost associated with taking them on, when you factor in the aforementioned expenses, is too high to keep the customer without the customer going to either another practitioner or the subsidized public health system (at least NYS has this, I don't know about other states).
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
During the first 3-5 years of Massachusetts' PPACA, what was the turnover on the number of available practitioners? Just a rough guess, and if you want to adjust for expected retirement/startup, so be it. How did administrative costs for practitioners in your state change, and what did it do to the cost of the care itself?
During the first 3-5 years of Massachusetts' PPACA, what was the turnover on the number of available practitioners? Just a rough guess, and if you want to adjust for expected retirement/startup, so be it. How did administrative costs for practitioners in your state change, and what did it do to the cost of the care itself?
Flaggy, I don't take orders unless you'll willing to pay for it and make sure your request stays rated "G".
Find your own info.What I can tell you is 1) Mass has the highest # of insured people, 2) the state has implemented the exchanges, 3) unemployment is lower than the national average, and 4) the state has not been bankrupted in the process.
Points #3 and #4 are the ones that always get the righties, as it blows their mind that an actual example has been implemented successfully.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
It may not be bankrupted, but it's running some serious deficits. And yes, I'm well aware of your state's balanced budget requirement, but projected != actual. Also, I don't trust anything anymore with regards to unemployment, especially seeing as how the definition of those "in the work force" has changed greatly since the crash of 2008. I bet it's higher than you'd think, despite the fact your spin on unemployment was a comparative one with respect to the national average.
I'm not surprised you don't want to provide the info, as there's a chance my points could very well be proved.
Flaggy, I don't take orders unless you'll willing to pay for it and make sure your request stays rated "G".
What I can tell you is 1) Mass has the highest # of insured people, 2) the state has implemented the exchanges, 3) unemployment is lower than the national average, and 4) the state has not been bankrupted in the process.
Points #3 and #4 are the ones that always get the righties, as it blows their mind that an actual example has been implemented successfully.
It may not be bankrupted, but it's running some serious deficits. And yes, I'm well aware of your state's balanced budget requirement, but projected != actual. Also, I don't trust anything anymore with regards to unemployment, especially seeing as how the definition of those "in the work force" has changed greatly since the crash of 2008. I bet it's higher than you'd think, despite the fact your spin on unemployment was a comparative one with respect to the national average.
I'm not surprised you don't want to provide the info, as there's a chance my points could very well be proved.
Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
How are your taxes? Is the moniker "Taxachusetts" a misnomer?Flaggy, I don't take orders unless you'll willing to pay for it and make sure your request stays rated "G".
What I can tell you is 1) Mass has the highest # of insured people, 2) the state has implemented the exchanges, 3) unemployment is lower than the national average, and 4) the state has not been bankrupted in the process.
Points #3 and #4 are the ones that always get the righties, as it blows their mind that an actual example has been implemented successfully.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/index.html
Much of that is the gist of this story from CNN Money.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/index.html
Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
Maybe we should all just address Rover as Candide....after all, they both live in the best possible worlds, no?
Maybe we should all just address Rover as Candide....after all, they both live in the best possible worlds, no?
unofan
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
http://www.leagueofruralvoters.org/resources/articles/doctorshortageacuteinruralsouthdakota.html
Just one of many pre-ACA articles discussing the upcoming shortage of doctors due to policy decisions made in the 80's and 90's. But please, do keep trying to pin it on the ACA.
http://www.leagueofruralvoters.org/resources/articles/doctorshortageacuteinruralsouthdakota.html
Just one of many pre-ACA articles discussing the upcoming shortage of doctors due to policy decisions made in the 80's and 90's. But please, do keep trying to pin it on the ACA.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
If anything, you could pin the shortage on policy decisions made in the 60's (medicare/medicaid). As we all know, though, you lose a game of Jenga because of a block that someone else pulled out.
If anything, you could pin the shortage on policy decisions made in the 60's (medicare/medicaid). As we all know, though, you lose a game of Jenga because of a block that someone else pulled out.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
Perhaps it is time for impeachment? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578591503509555268.html
Although, you could probably sue if you were an employee of the IRS.
Perhaps it is time for impeachment? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323823004578591503509555268.html
Although, you could probably sue if you were an employee of the IRS.
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St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
I don't know who could or would sue in order to get this section of the law enforced. My only bet would be a governor or treasurer of a state whose funds were in jeopardy due to some projected value of tax revenue not arriving into its coffers that were based upon the expected purchase of more insurance contracts. Even then, it would be political suicide in almost any state outside of Hawaii.
No, impeachment isn't going to happen. Censure might, but that would be highly unlikely. Nobody in Congress wants to side with the enforcement of what could be considered a regulatory tax.
I don't know who could or would sue in order to get this section of the law enforced. My only bet would be a governor or treasurer of a state whose funds were in jeopardy due to some projected value of tax revenue not arriving into its coffers that were based upon the expected purchase of more insurance contracts. Even then, it would be political suicide in almost any state outside of Hawaii.
Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
It seems to me that the best way to avoid a potential Constitutional crisis here would be for a few thoughtful Democrats in the Senate merely to ask that a law be passed suspending the employer mandate for one year.
I know someone who knows a good Democrat Senator, I'll try to pass the word along.
It seems to me that the best way to avoid a potential Constitutional crisis here would be for a few thoughtful Democrats in the Senate merely to ask that a law be passed suspending the employer mandate for one year.
I know someone who knows a good Democrat Senator, I'll try to pass the word along.
unofan
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Do you similarly ask your state legislature for similar waivers every time a cop uses his discretion to issue a warning rather than a ticket? Or lets people going only 5 over go without pulling them over?
Otherwise, it sounds like you don't mind some executive discretion, and only care about this because it makes the other side look bad.
In fact it is. Taxachusetts is a 25 year old moniker used most extensively during the 1988 Presidential race, historically known as the last time a Republican cracked 300 electoral votes. As I often say to Opie, I will say to you. I might be time to spend some time in the 21st century.
Flaggy what's the point of posting statistics if you're not going to believe them if they don't back up your viewpoint? So apparently not only are unemployment stats skewered, they're extra skewered in Mass to make the state look better than the national average even though the state isn't the one compiling its unemployment #'s. Oooookaaayyyy. What time do the black helicopters arrive, and what is the appropriate dress code for wherever they're taking us?
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
You're the one who said it's extra skewered. Huff-and-puffers exaggerating in a desperate attempt to make knuckledraggers and sociopaths look bad is like calling the sky blue. Could MA have been above the average with or without that plan? Sure, it's possible. That doesn't mean that the entire country has the ability to be like them.
As for your black helicopters, you'll see that when the signs for "This area is under martial law" are put up (these actually exist, they had to bring them to NYS from the south because a cop in the North Country sent them back across the border; yes, we outsource signs), and the appropriate dress code is blindfolds and pantyhose.
In fact it is. Taxachusetts is a 25 year old moniker used most extensively during the 1988 Presidential race, historically known as the last time a Republican cracked 300 electoral votes. As I often say to Opie, I will say to you. I might be time to spend some time in the 21st century.
Flaggy what's the point of posting statistics if you're not going to believe them if they don't back up your viewpoint? So apparently not only are unemployment stats skewered, they're extra skewered in Mass to make the state look better than the national average even though the state isn't the one compiling its unemployment #'s. Oooookaaayyyy. What time do the black helicopters arrive, and what is the appropriate dress code for wherever they're taking us?
You're the one who said it's extra skewered. Huff-and-puffers exaggerating in a desperate attempt to make knuckledraggers and sociopaths look bad is like calling the sky blue. Could MA have been above the average with or without that plan? Sure, it's possible. That doesn't mean that the entire country has the ability to be like them.
As for your black helicopters, you'll see that when the signs for "This area is under martial law" are put up (these actually exist, they had to bring them to NYS from the south because a cop in the North Country sent them back across the border; yes, we outsource signs), and the appropriate dress code is blindfolds and pantyhose.
I don't own pantyhouse Flaggy so I'll have to borrow yours. Just please send me a new pair and not one that you've already been wearing.
PS - I said nothing about extra skewered but don't let that stop you. You're on a roll and I'm enjoying the show! Seems the word "skewered" or better yet "unskewered" might bring up bad memories for you knucks'.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The PPACA - Implementation Phase I
You said that I called the unemployment stats extra skewered in MA when my original post made no comparison whatsoever to the rest of the country, so nice try.
Unfortunately, most of my pantyhose have runs in them, so would you settle for a No Nonsense gift certificate?
I don't own pantyhouse Flaggy so I'll have to borrow yours. Just please send me a new pair and not one that you've already been wearing.
PS - I said nothing about extra skewered but don't let that stop you. You're on a roll and I'm enjoying the show! Seems the word "skewered" or better yet "unskewered" might bring up bad memories for you knucks'.
You said that I called the unemployment stats extra skewered in MA when my original post made no comparison whatsoever to the rest of the country, so nice try.
Unfortunately, most of my pantyhose have runs in them, so would you settle for a No Nonsense gift certificate?
You should put this quote in your signature!
It does help explain why you're so cranky though...- Status