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The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgiving

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The Republicans painted themselves into a corner by announcing they wouldn't consider a nominee before the ink was dry on the death certificate. They ought to have simply agreed to Donald's strategy: delay, delay, delay, without overtly signalling that they were purely motivated by political advantage and their 8th year running of Obama butt hurt.

So here's my plan. Put up Kamala Harris who has no desire to be on the Court. This introduces her to the country and allows Democrats to sing her virtues, and Republicans to employ their dog whistle racism and over the top rhetoric. The GOP wastes a few months on shadow theater, then they vote her down on party lines for no substantive reason at all.

The Republicans look like jerks to everyone except their hard core followers, who egg them on and make it even worse. The Democrats make their point that a candidate who would sail through in a normal situation has been assassinated by the Insane Clown Posse. Note this also plays out against the campaign, during which Cruz and Trump are trying to out-Goebells each other and Hillary is being slagged right and left by the RW Noise Machine, with all the collateral sexism that will happen from the outer provinces of Akin-land.

Clinton wins, the good guys take back the Senate, and then she nominates a young, hard-nosed LW Scalia who will dominate the Court for the next generation. When the GOP tries to block her, Schumer drops the H-bomb and we go to simple majority for cloture on SCOTUS votes, and the GOP can't say a peep because they just held the nation hostage for a year with their adolescent tantrum.

Harris, now a public figure and viewed extremely positively by liberals and moderate Democrats, is set up to become Governor of California on her way to running for President. If something goes insanely wrong and she actually is confirmed, she can write one or two interesting decisions restoring the voting rights act or protecting reproductive rights, then say she sees more of an opportunity to help America by executive action and retires from the Court, allowing Clinton to appoint that same young LW activist judge.

Everybody good wins and everybody bad loses, and in the end it's all the fault of the GOP and the Echo Chamber, and we are a year or two closer to their demographic flameout, with a Court that will nullify all their hamfisted voter suppression tactics.

There would finally be a light at the end of this godawful 36-year long tunnel of political FAIL, and a chance to put the US back on track, leaving the orcs to whine in their spider holes.
 
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Yup. The better plan would be, "Per 'AII, S2', the Senate does not consent to that selection. Try again."

They would really only have to play that out twice: 60 days of vetting, 30 days of deliberation/hearings, a "no" vote, repeat. Welcome to the August recess.

Yeah, but even that is playing with fire on the GOP side. No confirmation has taken anywhere near 300+ days. No one has taken more than 200+ days.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

Yup. The better plan would be, "Per 'AII, S2', the Senate does not consent to that selection. Try again."

They would really only have to play that out twice: 60 days of vetting, 30 days of deliberation/hearings, a "no" vote, repeat. Welcome to the August recess.

...and the Dems see that a mile away and call out the GOPs plan to voters for the next 7 months.

8 more years!

I think the dark horse here is Amy Klobuchar. You have an opportunity to move a "liberal" onto the court that is in the senate and with a DFL governor a chance to refill that seat with a dem

ETA: A liberal with a strong background in law.

Love it. But of course I would.
 
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Harris, now a public figure and viewed extremely positively by liberals and moderate Democrats, is set up to become Governor of California on her way to running for President.

I think Harris is going for the Senate, though, with Newsom going for Governor.
 
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They ought to have simply agreed to Donald's strategy: delay, delay, delay, without overtly signalling that they were purely motivated by political advantage and their 8th year running of Obama butt hurt.

Are you saying The Donald is smarter than establishment Senate GOPers? Wait, that's like having the best hair at a bald man convention ...

A pure "Nope, can't consent to that one; try again" (repeat, repeat, repeat) tactic (instead of this overt tantrum) was the correct play.
 
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BHO is ready to retire to a modest charitable life like every other ex president.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

I think BO would love to be a Supreme, but Michelle will probably have a strong say in determining what direction they go now. She was cool to the run for President and placed her own wishes second to his, something I doubt BO will forget. But it is probably easy to get accustomed to some of the perks of high government service, and the kids are past the soccer mom stage.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

I know The Onion has lost a lot of zip since they moved to the internet, but I love this headline.
 
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I can't see Obama wanting to be associate justice. Although he is certainly more of an intellectual than a CEO type, he's also obviously type A and as maladaptively ambitious as anyone who makes it to the presidency; he's not going to be the justice who answers the door in chambers when pizza comes.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

I can't see Obama wanting to be associate justice. Although he is certainly more of an intellectual than a CEO type, he's also obviously type A and as maladaptively ambitious as anyone who makes it to the presidency; he's not going to be the justice who answers the door in chambers when pizza comes.

Yeah, you're right.

Plus, for most, being a judge or justice tends to be an isolating occupation, which would not be too appealing to him at this point in his life.

Though it just seems that he could see himself as someday becoming a Justice with the gravitas of John Marshall and writing skills Benjamin Cardozo.
 
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I expected a clever logic driven perspective on what made sense for the Constitution and the country. Instead I got a strictly political its all about 'me' point of view. No logical argument at all. The only attempt at logic from the GOP is that we should wait until an election because 'the people should decide'.

Dems should make crystal clear that the people have decided in electing Obama for 4 years...and by not voting on a nominee, the GOP is in fact taking the decision away from the people of the United States.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

I expected a clever logic driven perspective on what made sense for the Constitution and the country. Instead I got a strictly political its all about 'me' point of view. No logical argument at all. The only attempt at logic from the GOP is that we should wait until an election because 'the people should decide'.

Dems should make crystal clear that the people have decided in electing Obama for 4 years...and by not voting on a nominee, the GOP is in fact taking the decision away from the people of the United States.

This is true. This becomes a battle for public opinion now.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

I expected a clever logic driven perspective on what made sense for the Constitution and the country. Instead I got a strictly political its all about 'me' point of view. No logical argument at all. The only attempt at logic from the GOP is that we should wait until an election because 'the people should decide'.

Dems should make crystal clear that the people have decided in electing Obama for 4 years...and by not voting on a nominee, the GOP is in fact taking the decision away from the people of the United States.

How would the numbers play if no Senator in the last quarter of his or her term were allowed to participate in the approval process.
 
How would the numbers play if no Senator in the last quarter of his or her term were allowed to participate in the approval process.

There are 24 Republicans up for re-election this year to just 10 Dems. This is the 2010 wave coming up for re-election.
 
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You reap what you sow. Obama filibustered Alito when he was in the Senate. I hate how the parties don't think stuff like that is going to roll back onto them. And what good did it do? Alito is on the Bench.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

You reap what you sow. Obama filibustered Alito when he was in the Senate. I hate how the parties don't think stuff like that is going to roll back onto them. And what good did it do? Alito is on the Bench.

Then let them hold hearing and do the same. Whiny Goopers aren't even threatening a filibuster. They're saying they won't consider anybody. I'm amazed at how tone deaf they are. Best bet would have been to get a nominee, hold hearings, hope something derailed the nominee, and then say "oh well, we tried". Senators Kirk, Toomey, Johnson, Ayotte, and Portman need to win Dem votes to get re-elected, in the case of Kirk, Ayotte, and Toomey at least and most likely Johnson, they need A LOT of Dem votes. This ain't helpin'.
 
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