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The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgiving

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Why no autopsy?
Doesn't Texas have "unattended death" laws?
Or did Scalia have an unpublicized medical condition?

Because Obama had him whacked, silly. Try to keep up, will ya? (Or it could have been Hillary. Or Bernie. Or Kepler - has he fully accounted for his whereabouts on Saturday? ;))
 
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Because Obama had him whacked, silly. Try to keep up, will ya? (Or it could have been Hillary. Or Bernie. Or Kepler - has he fully accounted for his whereabouts on Saturday? ;))

I'm just so disappointed in Obama's strategy here. Why didn't he do it earlier in his term? Didn't he know about the last-year-of-the-term rule that would come into existence an hour after the execution was carried out?
 
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A strict constructionist would mention there that the President has the power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate*, to appoint Judges of the Supreme Court.

The Senate can choose to or not consent and that's by the Constitution.


*That's why Article II, Section 2 is normally called the "advice and consent" section.

Nobody is saying the Senate is obligated to confirm the appointment.
 
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Because Obama had him whacked, silly. Try to keep up, will ya? (Or it could have been Hillary. Or Bernie. Or Kepler - has he fully accounted for his whereabouts on Saturday? ;))

If you're going that way, ... Vlad Putin.

I've read Vince Flynn's "Term Limits". Nothing would surprise me. Yes, today's politic has made me that cynical.
 
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Because Obama had him whacked, silly. Try to keep up, will ya? (Or it could have been Hillary. Or Bernie. Or Kepler - has he fully accounted for his whereabouts on Saturday? ;))

As Coroner I must aver,
I thoroughly examined him.
And he's not only merely dead,
he's really most sincerely dead.
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS VIII - I am certiorari we'll be arguing until Thanksgivin

A strict constructionist would mention there that the President has the power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate*, to appoint Judges of the Supreme Court.

The Senate can choose to or not consent and that's by the Constitution.


*That's why Article II, Section 2 is normally called the "advice and consent" section.

Exactly. The "SCists" lose what infinitesimal amount of credibility they had if they carry out this "THE PEOPLE SHOULD PICK THE NEXT JUSTICE IN THE ELECTION WAAAAAARGARGBL!!!" plan.

I hate everything the Republicans have become.
 
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I'm just so disappointed in Obama's strategy here. Why didn't he do it earlier in his term? Didn't he know about the last-year-of-the-term rule that would come into existence an hour after the execution was carried out?

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Exactly. The "SCists" lose what infinitesimal amount of credibility they had if they carry out this "THE PEOPLE SHOULD PICK THE NEXT JUSTICE IN THE ELECTION WAAAAAARGARGBL!!!" plan.

Yup. The better plan would be, "Per 'AII, S2', the Senate does not consent to that selection. Try again."

They would really only have to play that out twice: 60 days of vetting, 30 days of deliberation/hearings, a "no" vote, repeat. Welcome to the August recess.
 
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Bernie should make the pick for Obama. He'd pick the same guy as Obama, but it would go through without any problem, or so I've heard on the campaign trail.
 
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Yup. The better plan would be, "Per 'AII, S2', the Senate does not consent to that selection. Try again."

They would really only have to play that out twice: 60 days of vetting, 30 days of deliberation/hearings, a "no" vote, repeat. Welcome to the August recess.

And then, like Ike, Obama makes a recess appointment to the court.
 
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Bernie should make the pick for Obama. He'd pick the same guy as Obama, but it would go through without any problem, or so I've heard on the campaign trail.

I thought Bernie would pick Obama ... or was that Hillary that would pick Obama?
 
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Hooray for ScoobyDoo!!! You nailed it here.

Opposing opinions are a requirement in our democracy. To be able to completely disagree with someone and still respect them takes a great mind. Scalia, like RBG, had/have that ability and the country is better for it. Too many who disagree feel the other side is nothing but scum and that gives us the level of discourse (and the clowns who practice it) that we have today

I dont think the other side is scum, I think Scalia was scum. Very subtle difference.
 
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It was also interesting to hear that Scalia suggested Kagan to the Obama administration. They went with Sotomayer first but Kagan was finally confirmed in Obama's second appointment. Scalia was smart enough to know that a liberal would be coming and he always liked liberals who could make textual arguments. That's why he and RBG got along so well.

He's going to be missed. The rest of the conservatives aren't as interesting nor logical as Scalia was.

When you're good enough to be on the pro tour, you don't want to play with the beer leaguers.
 
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I dont think the other side is scum, I think Scalia was scum. Very subtle difference.

Yeah, see, I disagree here. I'd much rather jettison Alito or Thomas than Scalia.
 
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Vetting process? Unless he names himself. :)

Vet-schmet.
Any sitting President has a short list in that file in the bottom left desk drawer. (It's the manila file behind the magenta one with the dirt on his party and the other party).

Why not his current or previous AG? I could see him roll that way. And it would be awesome political theater.


My only problem would be (stealing the line): Emerson, Morden, or Winkler?
 
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Alright, I'll bite. Please explain why

I wasnt asking you to bite, I dont want to discuss it really. I have my opinion (I dont like most of his opinions or his stances on most issues especially on rights of people) and others have theirs and I am fine with that. Trust me when I tell you the discussion will go nowhere.
 
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A strict constructionist would mention there that the President has the power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate*, to appoint Judges of the Supreme Court.

The Senate can choose to or not consent and that's by the Constitution.


*That's why Article II, Section 2 is normally called the "advice and consent" section.

You're right, of course, but the duty to nominate is mandatory and is the President's alone, whether he is in the first or fourth year of the term.
 
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