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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder

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Kepler said:
It begins with their definition of themselves as the only true Americans. Everything follows from that.
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Ironic, since they would be the sort most likely to side with the Crown in the Revolution. It's a shame every colony didn't have its own Evacuation Day.
 
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Bob Gray said:
No, but I don't see the Euros and their many problems as being definitional for me. You have an active imagination.
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It's pretty weird, though, that the definition of socialism that's bandied about on the right and all too often by the mainstream media would make a 19th century robber baron blush. The equivalent would be the Saudis calling the failure to beat women for driving "radical feminism."

The right was able to impose an ideological redefinition on many words during their heyday in the 80s, just as the left was in the 30s. But those definitions were only supported for as long as they had cultural dominance. Just as the New Deal left fell, so the Reagan right is now falling. Words are on the move again, whether you and I like it or not.
 
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Words are always on the move. Sometimes naturally, sometimes by manipulation. Such is the English language. You can argue history of certain terms several centuries ago or whenever all you want. I'm not sure what your point in doing so is.
 
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Priceless said:
Ironic, since they would be the sort most likely to side with the Crown in the Revolution. It's a shame every colony didn't have its own Evacuation Day.
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Where do you come up with this nonsense?
 
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Getting back to the subject at hand, I'm curious how Roberts goes on this one. Everything he does smacks not of a conservative social ideology but rather of Corporate Republicanism. So, Hobby Lobby and Citizens United aren't a surprise...but neither are the ACA or gay rights rulings. Corporations tend to be pro-gay rights as evidenced by how quickly they forced both Pence in ID and Hutchinson and AR to abondon discriminatory legislation. With the one exception of evironmental rulings where he tends to uphold the EPA's ability to regulate, I'd be surprised to see him go against Corporate America on this issue.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Words are always on the move. Sometimes naturally, sometimes by manipulation. Such is the English language. You can argue history of certain terms several centuries ago or whenever all you want. I'm not sure what your point in doing so is.
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My point is you may feel your terminology is certain and the world revolves around it, but the world moves on, not caring. Ignoring others is probably not the best basis for a plan of communication.
 
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Rover said:
Getting back to the subject at hand, I'm curious how Roberts goes on this one. Everything he does smacks not of a conservative social ideology but rather of Corporate Republicanism. So, Hobby Lobby and Citizens United aren't a surprise...but neither are the ACA or gay rights rulings. Corporations tend to be pro-gay rights as evidenced by how quickly they forced both Pence in ID and Hutchinson and AR to abondon discriminatory legislation. With the one exception of evironmental rulings where he tends to uphold the EPA's ability to regulate, I'd be surprised to see him go against Corporate America on this issue.
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So, Roberts, the Chief and Key addition to the Court by GW Bush (the Republican from which all Republicans should be defined) will go Corporate Lackey and vote in favor of gay marriage? He'll go against the Bible (a wonderful book which touts Polygamy more than any other union) and allow Bruce Jenner to marry her future wife creating a bond in Lesbian couplehood.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So, Roberts, the Chief and Key addition to the Court by GW Bush (the Republican from which all Republicans should be defined) will go Corporate Lackey and vote in favor of gay marriage? He'll go against the Bible (a wonderful book which touts Polygamy more than any other union) and allow Bruce Jenner to marry her future wife creating a bond in Lesbian couplehood.
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I think so. Notice how no Republicans that I'm aware of took on Wal-Mart when they put their boot on Hutchinson's throat and made him reject the Arkansas law? I also think if Kennedy is voting with the libs Roberts will go along for the ride and make it a 6-3 ruling. I don't get the sense the guy's a fundie. More a lackey as you say.
 
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Rover said:
I think so. Notice how no Republicans that I'm aware of took on Wal-Mart when they put their boot on Hutchinson's throat and made him reject the Arkansas law?
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Huckleberry did. Sanitarium might have, too.
 
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Kepler said:
Huckleberry did. Sanitarium might have, too.
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Allow me to clarify. Current officeholders. Not sure if Cruz said anything but if he did he moved on pretty quickly and I don't see any charges of "Corporate Socialism" being thrown Wal-Mart's way. :D
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Jindahl and Walker didn't. They'd have to be the favorites right now.
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Jindal's weird on the gays. He's fine with it. I don't know how that snuck by the sanity detector he uses to screen all his other thought.
 
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Rover said:
Allow me to clarify. Current officeholders.
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If you mean prez candidates, ya got me. But if you mean any current office holder, without checking I'd be willing to bet at least a half dozen of the usual suspects in the House were frothing at the mouth, baying at the moon, and calling The Lawd's Curse Down Upon This Unclean House!!!!11!

Those btches be crazy.
 
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Kepler said:
My point is you may feel your terminology is certain and the world revolves around it, but the world moves on, not caring. Ignoring others is probably not the best basis for a plan of communication.
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Says the side that is ignoring a large chunk of America and most of history.
 
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Rover said:
Getting back to the subject at hand, I'm curious how Roberts goes on this one. Everything he does smacks not of a conservative social ideology but rather of Corporate Republicanism. So, Hobby Lobby and Citizens United aren't a surprise...but neither are the ACA or gay rights rulings. Corporations tend to be pro-gay rights as evidenced by how quickly they forced both Pence in ID and Hutchinson and AR to abondon discriminatory legislation. With the one exception of evironmental rulings where he tends to uphold the EPA's ability to regulate, I'd be surprised to see him go against Corporate America on this issue.
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Corporations are pro-gay marriage because they've been strong-armed to be so for the most part and figured out they had better make the shift. They'd get hammered by the libs, but pro-traditional marriage folks are much quieter.

Kinda like the Dems. It suited them to be anti-gay marriage until the polls flipped and then they flipped with us. Same thing corporations did. They did what they deemed good for business, nothing more.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Corporations are pro-gay marriage because they've been strong-armed to be so for the most part and figured out they had better make the shift. They'd get hammered by the libs, but pro-traditional marriage folks are much quieter.

Kinda like the Dems. It suited them to be anti-gay marriage until the polls flipped and then they flipped with us. Same thing corporations did. They did what they deemed good for business, nothing more.
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Who strongarmed? Oh, I know, Christians. You know the ones that actually believe what Jesus said.
 
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