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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder

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Who strongarmed? Oh, I know, Christians. You know the ones that actually believe what Jesus said.

Just because Pat Robertson said Disney allowing health benefits to same-sex couples would result in Florida becoming Hell on Earth is no reason to think they're intolerant.
 
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Corporations are pro-gay marriage because they've been strong-armed to be so for the most part and figured out they had better make the shift. They'd get hammered by the libs, but pro-traditional marriage folks are much quieter.

Corporations don't have belief systems, Bob. And the boards who run corporations do whatever they need to make an extra dollar. If human sacrifice became legal tomorrow and Hobby Lobby could clear an extra 65 cents per immolation, they'd put the fire pit right next to "Crafting with Fabric."

There's gotta be some bizarro passage in Leviticus they could use to justify it as "Christian."
 
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Just because Pat Robertson said Disney allowing health benefits to same-sex couples would result in Florida becoming Hell on Earth is no reason to think they're intolerant.

He was right, though.
 
Corporations don't have belief systems, Bob. And the boards who run corporations do whatever they need to make an extra dollar. If human sacrifice became legal tomorrow and Hobby Lobby could clear an extra 65 cents per immolation, they'd put the fire pit right next to "Crafting with Fabric."

Corporations with shareholders are actually required to maximize profits. If human sacrifice were legal and corporations DIDN'T start executing people to increase profits the shareholders would revolt.
 
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Corporations with shareholders are actually required to maximize profits. If human sacrifice were legal and corporations DIDN'T start executing people to increase profits the shareholders would revolt.

Correct. Morality. Citizenship. Both meaningless.
 
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Corporations don't have belief systems, Bob. And the boards who run corporations do whatever they need to make an extra dollar. If human sacrifice became legal tomorrow and Hobby Lobby could clear an extra 65 cents per immolation, they'd put the fire pit right next to "Crafting with Fabric."

There's gotta be some bizarro passage in Leviticus they could use to justify it as "Christian."
Then you agree with me on corporations. Rover was making it out to sound like they were doing something altruistic, rather than just looking for the path of least resistance to profits.
 
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Then you agree with me on corporations. Rover was making it out to sound like they were doing something altruistic, rather than just looking for the path of least resistance to profits.


Not altruistic at all Bob. Corporations want access to good workers. They don't want to limit the talent pool because a bunch of righties with problems in their own marriage decide to pass discriminatory laws against gays. Its not any more complicated than that. However, ask yourself why all the "rising star hero next Presidents" in the GOP field didn't unleash holy hell on Wal-Mart for forcing the governor and legislature to water down a bill they'd already passed. I mean, who's running things over there?
 
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Then you agree with me on corporations. Rover was making it out to sound like they were doing something altruistic, rather than just looking for the path of least resistance to profits.

I do. But the implication is that corporations now find it profitable to be on the right side of history. I would call corporate greed a trailing indicator of social progress, if only because the leading shareholders and board members tend to be old and privileged, and thus personally insulated from social change. When even the board of Wal-Mart knows homophobia is the wrong horse to back, it's last call.
 
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Then you agree with me on corporations. Rover was making it out to sound like they were doing something altruistic, rather than just looking for the path of least resistance to profits.

You said they were strongarmed. You're a walking contradiction.
 
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Not altruistic at all Bob. Corporations want access to good workers. They don't want to limit the talent pool because a bunch of righties with problems in their own marriage decide to pass discriminatory laws against gays. Its not any more complicated than that. However, ask yourself why all the "rising star hero next Presidents" in the GOP field didn't unleash holy hell on Wal-Mart for forcing the governor and legislature to water down a bill they'd already passed. I mean, who's running things over there?
This has little to do with access to workers. It's all about trying to get good PR. And corps know that they'll get a lot of good PR from the liberal media and all if they tilt in favor of gay marriage and all. Not that complicated an equation.
 
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This has little to do with access to workers. It's all about trying to get good PR. And corps know that they'll get a lot of good PR from the liberal media and all if they tilt in favor of gay marriage and all. Not that complicated an equation.

It does have to do with employees. The NCAA doesn't really care about negative press. They do care that people who work for them will be harassed, or that people they want to come work for them won't. Apple most certainly cares about those policies. In Arkansas, Wal-Mart isn't exactly afraid of negative media attention either.
 
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My thought is that even 30 years from now, the idea of outlawing same sex marriage will be seen as a truly cave man concept. And not because moral standards have been compromised but for the same reasons we now cannot imagine preventing women from voting or owning land or black people from sitting at the front of the bus.
 
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This has little to do with access to workers. It's all about trying to get good PR. And corps know that they'll get a lot of good PR from the liberal media and all if they tilt in favor of gay marriage and all. Not that complicated an equation.


But Bob, if according to you most people are really conservatives, why would touting a radical liberal line win out in the end for these corporations? In Indiiana? Arkansas? Hardly bastions of liberalism.
 
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But Bob, if according to you most people are really conservatives, why would touting a radical liberal line win out in the end for these corporations? In Indiiana? Arkansas? Hardly bastions of liberalism.

Because most consumers in places like Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina are glued to MSNBC and pay no mind whatsoever to what's going down over on FOX News. And the corporations know that, because they have the research data.
 
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