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The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder

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Handyman said:
I am sure Fishy would have no such question about using public assistance to buy guns. :rolleyes:
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Everyone needs lots of iron in their diet (just be careful about lead poisoning)
 
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I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
 
unofan said:
Since you can't use traditional welfare to buy either of those things, you're really asking if they should be allowed to spend their own money on them now that taxpayers are providing them with food.

They have the constitutional right to spend their own money in a legal manner as they see fit, just as you or I do. They also have a fourth amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures. Doesn't matter that it's the Dept. of health and human services rather than a cop; a government actor is still a government actor.

So no, you don't get to take away Billy Bob's 21st Amendment rights simply because he's getting food stamps.
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But food stamps are not a right are they? Why could it not be conditional? "Sure you can get food stamps, but part of qualifying for them is passing a drug test".
 
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FreshFish said:
I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
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How could it be a fair test if you were aware of it in advance?
 
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ericredaxe said:
But food stamps are not a right are they? Why could it not be conditional? "Sure you can get food stamps, but part of qualifying for them is passing a drug test".
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"Sure you can get your salary, but you have to pass a drug test."
"Sure you can collect Social Security, but you have to pass a drug test."
"Sure we'll give you billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but all of your employees from the CEO to the mail room will have to go pee in a cup while someone watches."
 
ericredaxe said:
But food stamps are not a right are they? Why could it not be conditional? "Sure you can get food stamps, but part of qualifying for them is passing a drug test".
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The drug test has to be reasonable, because it is a search. Most courts have said they're not.

Driving isn't a right either, but a cop still has to have a reason to make you blow into the tube.
 
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FreshFish said:
I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
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In Rafferty and the Gold Dust Twins, a character tries to find a pickpocket by shouting "thief" on the casino floor and spying who runs.

It clears the room.
 
unofan said:
The drug test has to be reasonable, because it is a search. Most courts have said they're not.

Driving isn't a right either, but a cop still has to have a reason to make you blow into the tube.
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But you can get stopped and screend in a roadblock for no reason.
 
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FreshFish said:
I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
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Or they may just turn around to see what jckass is yelling.
 
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FreshFish said:
I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
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Careful - I think you might turn into a whirling dervish or spawn your own personal tornado if you tried this...
 
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS Part VI - Roberts rules disorder

FreshFish said:
I am reminded of the sociological experiment my kids and I always wanted to try, but never did.

We talked about going into a crowded public place and then yelling "hey stupid!" loudly to see who would turn around.....
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Careful - I think you might turn into a whirling dervish or spawn your own personal tornado if you tried this...
 
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