Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
No, but it is a big moneymaker for them.
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The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
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Foxton
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
I think the complete lack of any substance to this statement sums up the value of everything that you have ever posted.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
So there is no employee contribution for Hobby Lobby's health care plan? Otherwise they are telling her what she can do with her own money.
So there is no employee contribution for Hobby Lobby's health care plan? Otherwise they are telling her what she can do with her own money.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
I doubt if there's an employee contribution that it covers much of her total health care costs under Hobby Lobby's coverage offered, if there is a payment on her part. So most of the cost is very likely born by the employer, not her.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
There's a contribution. I guarantee it. Average nowadays is 50%.
There's a contribution. I guarantee it. Average nowadays is 50%.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
So you agree that the company is telling the employee what they can do with their money.
So you agree that the company is telling the employee what they can do with their money.
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
So you agree that the company is paying almost all of the cost, not the employee?
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
About 80/20 as of 2012, not sure why that matters though? The questions was is the company telling the employee how they can spend their own money, that's a simple yes or no. Since you agree that the employee pays some of the cost, a simple yes will do, the amount doesn't matter.
About 80/20 as of 2012, not sure why that matters though? The questions was is the company telling the employee how they can spend their own money, that's a simple yes or no. Since you agree that the employee pays some of the cost, a simple yes will do, the amount doesn't matter.
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
Anywhere from 1/3 to all of their "non-Gov't Health Services Revenue" per their annual report of 2012-2013 or 8% ($98.2M) - 25%(310.8M) of total revenue assuming 327,166 abortions @ $300-$950 per procedure. Chump change to an wealthy man like Foxton but clearly a significant portion of PP's revenue
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
Unless everything is covered for every procedure, isn't every company telling every employee "how they can spend their own money?"
I mean I was forced to change from a more traditional insurance plan with a relatively low deductible/copays and now I'm on a high deductible plan that allows me to have an HSA. Isn't that my company telling me how to spend my own money?
Unless everything is covered for every procedure, isn't every company telling every employee "how they can spend their own money?"
I mean I was forced to change from a more traditional insurance plan with a relatively low deductible/copays and now I'm on a high deductible plan that allows me to have an HSA. Isn't that my company telling me how to spend my own money?
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
What is 20/80? The math is undefined, as a health care premium goes to help provide coverage for a whole ton of possible things, with this being one tiny slice of that ton of things. So I'd contend the amount the employee is paying through their monthly premium is likely very small and very possibly so small as to be considered inconsequential. Yes, the amount does matter.
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Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
I'm going to pay off my credit cards with political speech. I figure a few episodes of Rachel Maddow's show and some WSJ editorials ought to do it.
I'm going to pay off my credit cards with political speech. I figure a few episodes of Rachel Maddow's show and some WSJ editorials ought to do it.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
And then you might respond like I always do and say how you'd be throwing money away cause if you don't take the employers benefit they don't add it back to your paycheck.
And the righties response to that would be something like, "so".
Fun, ay? So much fun.
I'll give you the answer I always get from the righties. No, they're not. You don't have to have their plan. If you don't like it buy your own.
And then you might respond like I always do and say how you'd be throwing money away cause if you don't take the employers benefit they don't add it back to your paycheck.
And the righties response to that would be something like, "so".
Fun, ay? So much fun.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
I agree that the law should be changed to allow you to get tax benefits for personal spending on health care to offset the fact that people do choose to pay for their own health care. I actually do get a kickback from my work for not having my wife on my insurance and it would be bigger if I chose not to have health insurance at all at my work and went on her plan.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
You're very lucky if they reimburse you for that. Not common.
You're very lucky if they reimburse you for that. Not common.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
I'm fairly confident our company specifically prohibits family members from being included if their employer offers healthcare.
I'm fairly confident our company specifically prohibits family members from being included if their employer offers healthcare.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
How would they know?
How would they know?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
Not sure. How do they know someone isn't a smoker when he or she checks that box?
It could be considered insurance fraud. I don't know all the details since I don't have a spouse and I don't smoke. Plus it's also weird since my company is completely self-insured.
Not sure. How do they know someone isn't a smoker when he or she checks that box?
It could be considered insurance fraud. I don't know all the details since I don't have a spouse and I don't smoke. Plus it's also weird since my company is completely self-insured.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The Power of the SCOTUS IV: Gays, Guns, and Immigrants, OH MY!
That seems really dumb, if it wasn't for the fact that I get the kickback and her insurance has a huge bump to add just me, we'd pick one for consistency without blinking an eye.
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