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The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.

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First Lady active in politics and policy, a senator, a Secretary of State, and she's a lawyer. She served on the board of Walmart.

She's been involved in every branch of government. At some of the highest levels in the legislative and executive branches.

Bill was a governor and a state attorney general.
 
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Don't expect any dragger to objectively analyze Hillsry. They can't do it while going Pee Wee Herman, "lalalala I can't hear you lalala".
 
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joecct said:
Yes. Do it. Make the list. Read it and weep when you compare it to Bubba's pre WH CV.
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dxmnkd316 said:
First Lady active in politics and policy, a senator, a Secretary of State, and she's a lawyer. She served on the board of Walmart.

She's been involved in every branch of government. At some of the highest levels in the legislative and executive branches.

Bill was a governor and a state attorney general.
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Like her or not, there is no question Hillary has as much or more pre WH experience than Bill had.

She's off-the-charts more qualified than Trump or Cruz.
 
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burd said:
Like her or not, there is no question Hillary has as much or more pre WH experience than Bill had.

She's off-the-charts more qualified than Trump or Cruz.
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Yeah, I am not a Hillary fan and I would agree with both of those. Her problem is she lacks Bill's charisma and ability to make people like him.
 
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joecct said:
Yes. Do it. Make the list. Read it and weep when you compare it to Bubba's pre WH CV.
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I am curious whether you think Hillary isn't presidential material, because I think you've been a fair evaluator of the strengths and weaknesses of other candidates.

Even though I loathe her (I may have mentioned this previously once or twice), I have no doubt at all that she can do the job. She seems to me to be serious, hard working, highly intelligent, confident, pragmatic, and she has very definite ideas of where she wants to lead the country. In a word, she's a leader. I'd have preferred her to have been a governor and have direct executive experience, but I think in many ways she was a co-president with Bill and God knows she has seen the claws of the great beast that is the USG and lived to tell the tale.

I have no problem with Hillary taking the 3 a.m. call. I expect her decisions to be informed, measured, and practical, even though I will not approve of some of them. In all honesty I cannot think of anybody who ran this cycle who I would trust more procedurally. My objections are on the course, not the helmsman.
 
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Kepler said:
I have no problem with Hillary taking the 3 a.m. call. I expect her decisions to be informed, measured, and practical, even though I will not approve of some of them. In all honesty I cannot think of anybody who ran this cycle who I would trust more procedurally. My objections are on the course, not the helmsman.
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Which is of course an indictment of the entire field itself.
 
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Handyman said:
Which is of course an indictment of the entire field itself.
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Not directly, since I think she actually holds the bar pretty high. But in the event, yes, they were for the most part pygmies.
 
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Handyman said:
Yes keep saying stuff like this in public...
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McConnell is not an idiot. I wonder whether the establishment is thinking that this time they'll do everything the meatheads want, and then after the tsunami they'll say "that's what happens when you go to the fringe; come with us if you want to live."
 
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Handyman said:
Yes keep saying stuff like this in public...
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My favorite are the ones who are publically floating the idea of a lame duck confirmation of Garland to avoid a real liberal justice. Talk about admitting to the hypocrisy of their whole "let the voters decide" lie. :rolleyes: :p
 
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Kepler said:
McConnell is not an idiot. I wonder whether the establishment is thinking that this time they'll do everything the meatheads want, and then after the tsunami they'll say "that's what happens when you go to the fringe; come with us if you want to live."
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You need to get past this "The Establishment Knows What it Is Doing" meme you have been on for the past year. The Establishment has lost control. There is no grand plan behind the scenes...they are Nero playing the fiddle. Maybe if the coalition was still in tact you would have a point but it isnt. The people who hate The Establishment arent going back under their thumb.

The crazies and the outliers have realized they always had more power than they believed because they have the numbers and now they have money backing them too. The Establishment is like the Monarchy in England...just there because there is nothing else to do with them.
 
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I know it's not a popular idea among the liberal members of the board, but I do believe that we still need a conservative party with some semblance of power to keep the extremely far left ideas in check. Which isn't to say extremely far left ideas aren't good ideas. What I mean is unbridled liberalism.

I just don't know how the GOP, or some replacement party, could form and thrive given the state of the right. Maybe it's the disaffected conservative voters that have found themselves left in the dust as the GOP goes Mach 1 to the right of center. I have no idea. I just feel like the fracturing of the GOP like we're seeing is both healthy and destructive.
 
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