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The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
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Handyman
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Are there other companies that can make gloves for men?
I know you think you are being super subversive and are like, proving some bigoted point while maintaining you arent a bigot but sack up and say what you are really saying. You look like a spineless Democrat the way you are meandering around your point.
Until such time as there is no need for protected classes guess what, they are going to be protected. White Males are not going to be amongst them, deal with it. (I am a White Male and I dont whine about it)
But hey, what did White people ever do to Black People...I mean the election was a month ago now get over it amirite?!?!?
Are there other companies that can make gloves for men?
I know you think you are being super subversive and are like, proving some bigoted point while maintaining you arent a bigot but sack up and say what you are really saying. You look like a spineless Democrat the way you are meandering around your point.
Until such time as there is no need for protected classes guess what, they are going to be protected. White Males are not going to be amongst them, deal with it. (I am a White Male and I dont whine about it)
But hey, what did White people ever do to Black People...I mean the election was a month ago now get over it amirite?!?!?
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
I don't think you want to take that line of logic. "Can't those gay couples just go to another bakery to get their wedding cakes?"
Handyman
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Yes I do...because being a man is not protected and being gay is. When gays are treated equally then your point works but they arent. That is why there are protected classes. And if you go back I have no problem with a bakery not making cakes for gay weddings...I have a problem with them whining when they get protested against for doing it. Plenty of the "Market Forces" people around here whined about people protesting the bakeries cause the bakeries went out of business well if you are going to openly be bigots people have the right to take their business away from you.
We dont live in a vacuum...its why on their face there is nothing wrong with voter id laws but their implementation almost always guarantees certain minorities are going to be denied their right to vote. Protected classes are protected for a reason and White Men need to shut up about it already.
Yes I do...because being a man is not protected and being gay is. When gays are treated equally then your point works but they arent. That is why there are protected classes. And if you go back I have no problem with a bakery not making cakes for gay weddings...I have a problem with them whining when they get protested against for doing it. Plenty of the "Market Forces" people around here whined about people protesting the bakeries cause the bakeries went out of business well if you are going to openly be bigots people have the right to take their business away from you.
We dont live in a vacuum...its why on their face there is nothing wrong with voter id laws but their implementation almost always guarantees certain minorities are going to be denied their right to vote. Protected classes are protected for a reason and White Men need to shut up about it already.
unofan
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Being a man is protected, at least in most states and federally. As is being white, or heterosexual, or Christian. Courts just generally have required more proof in such reverse discrimination cases than they would for a gay black female Muslim. But such cases do happen and can be successful from time to time.
Interestingly, the only federal statute that doesn't cover all of a characteristic, as far as I'm aware, is the age discrimination statute. It only covers employees 40 and over, and only covers discrimination against older workers (so even if you're 41, you can't claim discrimination because you're younger than the 60 somethings in upper management).
dxmnkd316
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dxmnkd316
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
While this is true, classes have been added over time because they have been discriminated against. If we woke up tomorrow and we were beating left-handed people and stores stopped selling goods to them, I assume they would eventually become a protected class. (It's a bizarre scenario, granted, but the point stands.)
While this is true, classes have been added over time because they have been discriminated against. If we woke up tomorrow and we were beating left-handed people and stores stopped selling goods to them, I assume they would eventually become a protected class. (It's a bizarre scenario, granted, but the point stands.)
This. Bigoted bakers should wake up every morning and pray a prayer of Thanksgiving to St. John Jay for the fact that they no longer have to choose between following their (im)moral convictions and staying in business. The choice is no longer in their hands, thanks to the courts.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
I think it would be helpful for uno to explain the difference between equal protection classifications, which require state action, and statutory protections, which apply to private individuals and entities as well. The different classes and related tests that apply to state action through the 5th and 14th Amendments change slowly and are a slightly different breed of cat from more specific protections afforded under federal and state statutes. I believe it is true that if it were not for federal and state statutes there would be little or no protection against discrimination by non-state actors.
I think it would be helpful for uno to explain the difference between equal protection classifications, which require state action, and statutory protections, which apply to private individuals and entities as well. The different classes and related tests that apply to state action through the 5th and 14th Amendments change slowly and are a slightly different breed of cat from more specific protections afforded under federal and state statutes. I believe it is true that if it were not for federal and state statutes there would be little or no protection against discrimination by non-state actors.
Handyman
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Yeah I should have worded it better. Obviously you cant discriminate against White Males. (which I am glad about seeing as I am one
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Yeah I should have worded it better. Obviously you cant discriminate against White Males. (which I am glad about seeing as I am one
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Really? I get the feeling based on the last election that there is a lot of oppressed white males in the US Population. Correct me if I'm wrong. Seems we need some laws changed.
Yeah I should have worded it better. Obviously you cant discriminate against White Males. (which I am glad about seeing as I am one
Really? I get the feeling based on the last election that there is a lot of oppressed white males in the US Population. Correct me if I'm wrong. Seems we need some laws changed.
FadeToBlack&Gold
No Quarter for Fascists
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
It's not just men. Don't forget a majority of white women voted to have their pu$$ies grabbed, too.
It's not just men. Don't forget a majority of white women voted to have their pu$$ies grabbed, too.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Wait 'til they see who created the 13 August threads...
You guys and your rightsplaining.
You miss the point of left-handedness entirely. We're not a belittled, oppressed group.
We're simply better than you.
Wait 'til they see who created the 13 August threads...
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
I forgot which thread we've been using to discuss voter fraud cases.....
The "debate" always seems to bifurcate: (1) you cannot prove any one particular person was responsible, therefore it did not happen, vs (2) there were more votes cast than voters, therefore fraud must have happened.
Latest exhibit.
oops. this recount is not following the script it was supposed to follow, eh?
I forgot which thread we've been using to discuss voter fraud cases.....
The "debate" always seems to bifurcate: (1) you cannot prove any one particular person was responsible, therefore it did not happen, vs (2) there were more votes cast than voters, therefore fraud must have happened.
Latest exhibit.
oops. this recount is not following the script it was supposed to follow, eh?
Handyman
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
"Of the data available, though, machines tallied at least 388 more ballots, according to a Detroit News analysis of the records. That’s 0.16 percent of the 248,000 ballots cast in the city that voted for Clinton 95 percent to 3 percent over Drumpf."
“It’s usually human error,” Golembiewski said. “I have not seen anyone intentionally try to run an extra ballot. You aren’t going to rig an election three ballots at a time. You’re going to need a far more systematic and thorough approach than a couple of people here and there stuffing three extra ballots.”
From the article you posted. I dont think the article says what you think it does Fishy but that is often the case with your conclusions
"Of the data available, though, machines tallied at least 388 more ballots, according to a Detroit News analysis of the records. That’s 0.16 percent of the 248,000 ballots cast in the city that voted for Clinton 95 percent to 3 percent over Drumpf."
“It’s usually human error,” Golembiewski said. “I have not seen anyone intentionally try to run an extra ballot. You aren’t going to rig an election three ballots at a time. You’re going to need a far more systematic and thorough approach than a couple of people here and there stuffing three extra ballots.”
From the article you posted. I dont think the article says what you think it does Fishy but that is often the case with your conclusions
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
That you think it was supposed to follow a script says everything. There is nothing that points to voter fraud, maybe just maybe the details say something like Florida 2000, its a lousy system they have.
■236 precincts in balance — equal numbers of voters counted by workers and machines
■248 precincts with too many votes and no explanation (77 were 1 over; 62 were 2 over, 37 were 3 over, 20 were 4 over, 52 were 5 or more over).
■144 precincts with too few votes and no explanation (81 were 1 under, 29 were 2 under; 19 were 3 under; 7 were 4 under; 8 were 5 or more under)
■34 precincts out of balance but with an explanation
That you think it was supposed to follow a script says everything. There is nothing that points to voter fraud, maybe just maybe the details say something like Florida 2000, its a lousy system they have.
■236 precincts in balance — equal numbers of voters counted by workers and machines
■248 precincts with too many votes and no explanation (77 were 1 over; 62 were 2 over, 37 were 3 over, 20 were 4 over, 52 were 5 or more over).
■144 precincts with too few votes and no explanation (81 were 1 under, 29 were 2 under; 19 were 3 under; 7 were 4 under; 8 were 5 or more under)
■34 precincts out of balance but with an explanation
unofan
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FTFA:
"248 precincts with too many votes and no explanation (77 were 1 over; 62 were 2 over, 37 were 3 over, 20 were 4 over, 52 were 5 or more over)."
Yeah, I'm going to go with human/machine error over fraud.
FadeToBlack&Gold
No Quarter for Fascists
Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
Fish is behind the 8-ball on this one. Flag posted it a week ago via Joe the Plumber's Crack, and of course didn't bother reading the "fake" Detroit News article that even JtPC cited, which explained everything you've just laid out for Fish.
Fish is behind the 8-ball on this one. Flag posted it a week ago via Joe the Plumber's Crack, and of course didn't bother reading the "fake" Detroit News article that even JtPC cited, which explained everything you've just laid out for Fish.
Handyman
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Re: The Power of SCOTUS VIII redux: IX is being blocked by the Senate.
I think Fish and Frauddy are the same person
Fish is behind the 8-ball on this one. Flag posted it a week ago via Joe the Plumber's Crack, and of course didn't bother reading the "fake" Detroit News article that even JtPC cited, which explained everything you've just laid out for Fish.
I think Fish and Frauddy are the same person
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