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The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
That's not what it is. If you have a link to good info on this I'll read it. I just haven't seen anything that really interests me on this one yet.
That's not what it is. If you have a link to good info on this I'll read it. I just haven't seen anything that really interests me on this one yet.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
The info in the news is as good on this issue as many other that people discuss around here.
Oh, I can understand why this doesn't tickle your fancy.
The info in the news is as good on this issue as many other that people discuss around here.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
That's what I like about you, Bob. Projecting your opinions onto the person you're talking to and working from the assumption that they accept the logic of your viewpoint but are just hedging / deflecting / lying.
That's what I like about you, Bob. Projecting your opinions onto the person you're talking to and working from the assumption that they accept the logic of your viewpoint but are just hedging / deflecting / lying.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
I could make one of those snarky comments about avoiding responses like a few folks do regularly around here, but thankfully most other times you are responsive. It just puzzles me that you seem so intent on avoiding this subject.
Of course, if that's what you like (or think you like) about me, I'm not sure I want to hear what you don't like about me!
I haven't projected any opinions on you, just noting that you (and many others) have avoided commenting on this subject unlike so many subjects that you think play favorably to your viewpoints and comment on even when there's little substantive information out there.That's what I like about you, Bob. Projecting your opinions onto the person you're talking to and working from the assumption that they accept the logic of your viewpoint but are just hedging / deflecting / lying.
I could make one of those snarky comments about avoiding responses like a few folks do regularly around here, but thankfully most other times you are responsive. It just puzzles me that you seem so intent on avoiding this subject.
Of course, if that's what you like (or think you like) about me, I'm not sure I want to hear what you don't like about me!
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
As if he hadn't already done that. Sometimes it seems as though Bob thinks people can't remember the things he posts for more than 5 minutes.
As if he hadn't already done that. Sometimes it seems as though Bob thinks people can't remember the things he posts for more than 5 minutes.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
This isn't a trap, Bob. This is not like the ACA, of which most of us could not even say we've read even one complete page before now. To varying degrees, it's personal for most of us. Just have at it.
Then duck, of course.
This isn't a trap, Bob. This is not like the ACA, of which most of us could not even say we've read even one complete page before now. To varying degrees, it's personal for most of us. Just have at it.
Then duck, of course.
FadeToBlack&Gold
No Quarter for Fascists
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
Based on what he's posted over the years, I don't think anyone would be too shocked if Bob's position is likely the standard, Bible-believing Christian's viewpoint: Love the sinner, hate the sin. And you know what? That's fine. I don't agree with it, but it's fine.
It's really not that hard guys. You do occasionally need to stop trolling for answers that are pretty easy to deduce, and cut the guy a bit of slack.
Based on what he's posted over the years, I don't think anyone would be too shocked if Bob's position is likely the standard, Bible-believing Christian's viewpoint: Love the sinner, hate the sin. And you know what? That's fine. I don't agree with it, but it's fine.
It's really not that hard guys. You do occasionally need to stop trolling for answers that are pretty easy to deduce, and cut the guy a bit of slack.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
They already know the answer they think it's fun to pile on.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Oh please what?, you want him to say because of my religious beliefs. Not sure why
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
No, he already said "wontsomeonethinkofthechildren" so we're genuinely curious how he thinks banning gay marriage is going to be good for children. He can't/won't explain why he sees a link between the two, which ought to be quite simple if he had really approached this with an open mind, thought through the evidence, and come to that belief as a rational conclusion.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
I believe Bob once said he thinks a same sex environment is detrimental to the rearing of children, one example being two mothers wouldn't properly administer discipline and mentoring the way having a father in the house would. I suppose we should outlaw child rearing out of wedlock too, but I'm afraid that comment might induce playing the martyr card.
I believe Bob once said he thinks a same sex environment is detrimental to the rearing of children, one example being two mothers wouldn't properly administer discipline and mentoring the way having a father in the house would. I suppose we should outlaw child rearing out of wedlock too, but I'm afraid that comment might induce playing the martyr card.
ericredaxe
Veteran
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
I think its a pretty gray area. At what point does advocating their views become political campaigning?
Did the Houston mayor take it too far? Maybe. Did the pastor veer into the world of political campaigning? Maybe.
I think Joe is correct, that it seems there could be a conflict of IRS regulations and free speech on this one.
Edit: I also have not heard anything about this other than reading the couple of links posted in this thread.
I think its a pretty gray area. At what point does advocating their views become political campaigning?
Did the Houston mayor take it too far? Maybe. Did the pastor veer into the world of political campaigning? Maybe.
I think Joe is correct, that it seems there could be a conflict of IRS regulations and free speech on this one.
Edit: I also have not heard anything about this other than reading the couple of links posted in this thread.
unofan
Well-known member
There's a right to free speech. There's no right to be a tax exempt entity. The IRS and congress can limit tax exempt entities however they choose so long as they treat all such entities the same. The churches can then either play along or pay their taxes.
But can the government use the Tax Code to enforce "be nice"?
unofan
Well-known member
Can it? Sure. It's called the power of the purse. Where do you think the national drinking age came from?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
This is BS. You accused me of intentionally ducking. I'm not. Don't walk it back, own it, that's exactly what you were implying.
Thing is, I like engaging with you because you don't play those games and you don't just hurl feces against the wall like many of our esteemed righties. You're a good poster; cut the crap.
I haven't projected any opinions on you, just noting that you (and many others) have avoided commenting on this subject unlike so many subjects that you think play favorably to your viewpoints and comment on even when there's little substantive information out there.
I could make one of those snarky comments about avoiding responses like a few folks do regularly around here, but thankfully most other times you are responsive. It just puzzles me that you seem so intent on avoiding this subject.
Of course, if that's what you like (or think you like) about me, I'm not sure I want to hear what you don't like about me!
This is BS. You accused me of intentionally ducking. I'm not. Don't walk it back, own it, that's exactly what you were implying.
Thing is, I like engaging with you because you don't play those games and you don't just hurl feces against the wall like many of our esteemed righties. You're a good poster; cut the crap.
True - and seatbelt usage. But can the government use the power of the purse to limit a constitutional right?
Mind you, I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said so far. But I am skeptical that a government entity will/would stop at almost anything to silence critics.
Re: The Power of SCOTUS V: The Final Frontier
What does nice have to do with it? A church would be just as egregiously in violation of the conditions that come along with the privilege of tax-exemption whether they're virulently disparaging a particular politician or whether they're effusively praising the virtues of a particular politician.
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