The Ohio State 2016-17 Thread: Let's give this another Schott

[osualum86]

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Winning ugly is better than losing pretty any day. Not the best performance by far but ill take the win and 3 points. The last three weeks including tonight they have had so much trouble getting out of their own zone and up the ice. Deep forecheck pressure from the opponent is to blame for some of that but terrible passing and decision making is also a part of that. I dont think Frey was to blame for either of the 2 goals. Kearney is to blame for that 1st one he tried to cheat and leave the zone and his man put home a rebound. Way to many battles lost in the defensive zone tonight which caused the two goals. Its nice to nit pick after a win but tomorrow it would be nice if i can just relax during a game.

Haha, we're Ohio State Hockey fans, we're not allowed to relax. Did you go up or did you watch online? Honestly, I will take another ugly 3-2 win tomorrow as long as we get the sweep and the six points!

 

[klbaum1077]

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Haha, we're Ohio State Hockey fans, we're not allowed to relax. Did you go up or did you watch online? Honestly, I will take another ugly 3-2 win tomorrow as long as we get the sweep and the six points!

Yea i am up here watching. Yea again your right we are never allowed to relax lol

 

[osualum86]

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I do not have the box score in front of me but I have read on a couple of different websites that Ohio State completed the sweep earlier tonight with a 4-3 win. That is a big six points on the road. Nice job by the guys this weekend. Next up the Wolverines come to town. Need to stay hot and get another six points.

 

[klbaum1077]

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I do not have the box score in front of me but I have read on a couple of different websites that Ohio State completed the sweep earlier tonight with a 4-3 win. That is a big six points on the road. Nice job by the guys this weekend. Next up the Wolverines come to town. Need to stay hot and get another six points.

Got up 3-0 for the second saturday night in a row this time kept the lead although they sat back and let the spartans back in the game. 6 point weekends are what it is about right now and with Michigan coming to town next weeekend they need to put the gas pedal to the floor and keep it down.

 

[pgb-ohio]

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Amen on the sweeps. Keep it going, Buckeyes.

 

[osualum86]

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Got up 3-0 for the second saturday night in a row this time kept the lead although they sat back and let the spartans back in the game. 6 point weekends are what it is about right now and with Michigan coming to town next weekend they need to put the gas pedal to the floor and keep it down.

Absolutely. Anything less than six points in each of the next two weekends will drop us in the PairWise, and we cannot afford that right now. We have climbed back up to 13th in the PairWise and we have the two worst teams in the league coming to our place in the coming weekends before finishing up at Wisconsin. Then again, "our place" hasn't been much of an advantage this season as our team inexplicably has a much better road record than they do at home. Maybe we can change that the next couple weekends.

 

[Buckeye22]

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Great win last night. I think that game could have been a lot closer, but those two goals with less than 10 seconds left at the end of the first two periods really took the wind out Michigan I think. We just need to stay out of the box and avoid majors like we did last night and we should be in good shape. The 4 minute PK in the 3rd was great to see, and some great saves by Frey helped a lot too.

 

[pgb-ohio]

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Great win last night.

Good compete level from the players. Good energy in the stands. Fun & successful night. As Peter Frampton would put it: C'mon; let's do it again.

I think that game could have been a lot closer, but those two goals with less than 10 seconds left at the end of the first two periods really took the wind out Michigan I think.

The Buckeyes had more than one path to victory last night, but that was the path taken. Those two goals won the game.

We just need to stay out of the box and avoid majors like we did last night and we should be in good shape. The 4 minute PK in the 3rd was great to see, and some great saves by Frey helped a lot too.

Also spot on. Good post.

 

[Buckeye22]

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Well that was brutal. Honestly, I don't really know what else we could have done. We stayed out of the box and killed off the one penalty we did have. We made a lot of sloppy passes, but we still controlled the game and outshot them about 2-1. We just couldn't get any of our chances to go. Extremely frustrating, especially after another great game from Frey. I'm generally not one to complain about refs, and this has nothing to do with the calls they made (although I do think they missed a hit from behind penalty against Jobst in the final 2 minutes), but I can't remember the last game where the refs got in the way of the play as much as they did tonight. They got in the way of the puck at least 3 or 4 times, and got in the way of players at least another 2 or 3 times in addition to that. Did impact the outcome? Probably not. It screwed Michigan once or twice too, but it sure was annoying.

 

[osualum86]

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What a **** show. No sense of urgency from this team whatsoever. It's like everyone was waiting for someone else to make a play. They had a chance to keep themselves close to the top ten in the PairWise and they come out and lay an egg against the 5th place team in the league (40th in the PairWise). No excuse for it. Oh well. It's official now ... this team will have to win the BIG Ten Tournament to get into the NCAA Tournament as they have slipped to 18th in the PairWise. They will not move up enough spots against Michigan State and Wisconsin (provided they win all four games against those teams, which seems unlikely) to ensure that they get in above the lower-ranked teams that will win their conference tournaments and get auto-bids. They needed to get up to 12th or higher, which they were before tonight. That is a lot of pressure to put on themselves, but then, they put themselves in this position with inexplicable losses to inferior teams. Now it's basically win the BIG Ten Tournament or the season is over.

 

[pgb-ohio]

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What a **** show. No sense of urgency from this team whatsoever. It's like everyone was waiting for someone else to make a play. They had a chance to keep themselves close to the top ten in the PairWise and they come out and lay an egg against the 5th place team in the league (40th in the PairWise). No excuse for it.

This Buckeye team has been consistently inconsistent. Your frustration is certainly warranted. And yet...

Michigan does deserve some credit. They brought a different approach to the rink Saturday. Rather than try to trade goals with the Buckeyes, their first commitment was to take away odd-man rushes and tenaciously defend the slot. It was noticeably different than the first three games. You might say that the game plan went against their program's DNA; yet they pulled it off. Granted, the fact Nagelvoort was excellent in goal was a big part of the story. Still, I have to grudgingly respect what Michigan did tonight as a team.

Oh well. It's official now ... this team will have to win the BIG Ten Tournament to get into the NCAA Tournament as they have slipped to 18th in the PairWise. They will not move up enough spots against Michigan State and Wisconsin (provided they win all four games against those teams, which seems unlikely) to ensure that they get in above the lower-ranked teams that will win their conference tournaments and get auto-bids. They needed to get up to 12th or higher, which they were before tonight. That is a lot of pressure to put on themselves, but then, they put themselves in this position with inexplicable losses to inferior teams. Now it's basically win the BIG Ten Tournament or the season is over.

Do we really know this? The pairwise is quite volatile. And some seem to be under the impression that if we sweep the four remaining games, it will be enough.

Don't get me wrong. Running the table does look like an unrealistic expectation, given the results to date. But I'd like to keep rooting for it, unless elimination from at-large consideration really is official -- mathematically speaking.

 

[osualum86]

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This Buckeye team has been consistently inconsistent. Your frustration is certainly warranted. And yet...

Michigan does deserve some credit. They brought a different approach to the rink Saturday. Rather than try to trade goals with the Buckeyes, their first commitment was to take away odd-man rushes and tenaciously defend the slot. It was noticeably different than the first three games. You might say that the game plan went against their program's DNA; yet they pulled it off. Granted, the fact Nagelvoort was excellent in goal was a big part of the story. Still, I have to grudgingly respect what Michigan did tonight as a team.

Do we really know this? The pairwise is quite volatile. And some seem to be under the impression that if we sweep the four remaining games, it will be enough.

Don't get me wrong. Running the table does look like an unrealistic expectation, given the results to date. But I'd like to keep rooting for it, unless elimination from at-large consideration really is official -- mathematically speaking.

You are certainly right about the PairWise being volatile! I just checked this morning and we are now listed at 15th (go figure). Last night after the game, we were 18th. I guess we will have to see what happens the next couple weeks. Honestly, now that I have calmed down, you are probably right that last night was more about what Michigan did than what we didn't do. That doesn't make it any less aggravating that this team continues to lose to teams they should beat. I just would hate to see a team this talented end up missing out on the NCAA Tournament because they didn't win games they were supposed to win. Mathematically, they may not be in a position where they have to win the BIG Ten Tournament to get an NCAA bid, but they appear to be headed in that direction at this point. Klbaum and I, among others, have had this discussion regarding the PairWise. In order to ensure that we get a bid, we have to get ourselves up to 12th or higher. The reason for this is you have to account for teams that are currently not in the top 16 of the PairWise winning their conference tournaments and getting auto-bids. If we end up 15th (like we are now), we'll get knocked out by auto-bids for the WCHA and Atlantic Hockey, neither of whom have a team ranked in the top 16 of the PairWise. That is how it works, whether we like it or not. Our next opponent is Michigan State, who is ranked 53rd in the PairWise, so we're probably not going to move up that much even if we sweep. Wisconsin has climbed back into 13th after splitting with top 5 Minnesota, so that series in Madison in a couple weeks could be huge in the PairWise depending on what the two teams do next weekend.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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If OSU wins out you will very likely be in, barring perhaps a loss to Mi/MiSt in the tournament. You probably can't afford to drop a game next week, but it's possible even splitting at UW will keep you in. Especially if WI wins one or two at PSU. It seems likely at the moment that two of OSU, PSU, or WI will get At Large bids depending on who beats who over the next two weekends, with PSU having an advantage.

 

[osualum86]

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If OSU wins out you will very likely be in, barring perhaps a loss to Mi/MiSt in the tournament. You probably can't afford to drop a game next week, but it's possible even splitting at UW will keep you in. Especially if WI wins one or two at PSU. It seems likely at the moment that two of OSU, PSU, or WI will get At Large bids depending on who beats who over the next two weekends, with PSU having an advantage.

I hope you are right. We are in a precarious spot right now when it comes to the NCAA Tournament, to say the least, not to mention us winning out is highly unlikely.

 

[Buckeye22]

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Ya its definitely close right now. I think a sweep of MSU and a split with Wisco, plus at least one win in the tournament is probably the minimum we will need to get in. Very doable, but we gotta take care of things next week. I don't really understand exactly the math of how the PairWise works, but we seemed to move up a few spots after beating MSU last week, so beating teams worse than us isn't completely useless. Definitely gonna be an exciting end to the season.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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Zac Dalpe picked up off waivers from Minnesota by the Blue Jackets and assigned him to the Lake Erie Monsters.

 

[Buckeye22]

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Well this is embarrassing...

 

[osualum86]

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Well this is embarrassing...

Yep, and there's no excuse for it. I don't understand how a team with this much talent that has NCAA aspirations could come out week in and week out and somehow think they can get by only playing parts of these games. They basically took the entire first period off and dug themselves a 4-0 hole vs the worst team in the league, and it proved to be a hole they were not able to dig out of. That's unforgivable at this point in the season when they should be playing with a sense of urgency as they are on the PairWise bubble (actually BELOW the PairWise bubble as they have now dropped four spots to 19th). They came out and played the second period, but it wasn't enough. I won't say they didn't show up for the third period, but there didn't appear to be as much urgency as there should have been. Then after the game, Strobel (Asst. Coach) gets on the postgame radio show with Howenstein & Mowat and talks about the team not coming out in the first period, along with some other things we were not doing and I hear him say that phrase we have heard him say before after losses ... "That's on us as coaches." Um, excuse me, but if you haven't gotten through to these kids in the 33rd game of the season and have them doing the things they should be doing to win hockey games, that's bad ... not a good look for the coaching staff! Not sure what else to say other than this team and possibly the coaching staff just do not get it. This team has the talent to get in the NCAA Tournament and even make a little run, and they are going to **** it away with inexcusable losses to inferior teams. I still have smoke coming out of my ears on this one vs a team that is 7-21-3 and is ranked 48th in the PairWise. Bottom line, this program continues to underachieve. They will end up playing their way into having to win the BIG Ten Tournament and get the auto-bid to get into the NCAA Tournament, and if they can't beat Michigan State at home, it's highly unlikely that they will win three hockey games in a row to win the BIG Ten Tournament. Sorry for this rant, but you all know I am just not capable of sugarcoating.

 

[klbaum1077]

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Well im glad i stayed home this weekend. I listened to the game while at the Bowling Green playoff game and it sounded like a team that thought they could just walk on the ice and win. There is no excuse for that they are not good enough to just throw the sticks on the ice and win. Hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard and thats what happened last night. Down to #19 and a win tonight sure wont move them up much but with Wisconsin winning again if they can win tonight and get a win or 2 next weekend they will move up.

 

[pgb-ohio]

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Sorry for this rant, but you all know I am just not capable of sugarcoating.

Actually you're a very positive poster, and on rare occasions you are guilty of a sugarcoat.

Which only adds more credibility to your "rant." Personally I was stunned by last night's poor 1st Period. It's March. Repeating, it's March. The guys simply have to understand that All A-Game; All The Time is a must. Fall short of that, and the season is going to be over very quickly.

During last night's post-game presser, Coach made the comment that in the last couple of games "We've shot both of our feet off." Painful to hear, but devastatingly accurate.

With the auto-bid out there, there's still hope. But as a certain musical group once said, that's Takin' the long way home. Let's just hope the team is truly ready to play, not ready to make nice. Starting tonight at 8:00.