The North Dakota Fighting Sioux vs. The Quinnipiac Braves

[Dirty]

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You have to admit the UND player cross checking Anas good shoulder was pretty lame, even the Mullet took him to task.

Meh. That was what it was. Given there were coincidental penalties on that play, I highly doubt Anas was an angel in the situation. Stetcher's crosscheck on Anas that lead to the 5on3 was much worse. It was completely unnecessary as Troy could have just as easily just pinned Anas against the boards.

 

[LTsatch]

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1. Denver was a tougher opponent than Northeastern, Michigan and Quinnipiac in our NCAA tournament field. Denver was faster, smarter and better organized than any other opponent. They played hockey the right way.
2. Quinnipiac was in this game only because of the officiating. Their goalkeeper rips off his own mask while laying down; at least a minor penalty. Their defensemen lay on top of our forwards after a check; no call. Their forwards don't get called for obvious charging penalties. Cam Johnson gets cross-checked while laying down with the puck late the game; no call.
3. Quinnipiac had no answer for speed and skill. I was looking forward to playing them as I thought they were better than BC, UML and RIT; the teams they beat. Quinnipiac would finish mid-standings in the NCHC.
4. Cam Johnson was spectacular this weekend. He gave up 3 goals; one inadvertent tip off a Sioux player (Asmus), one on a 5-on-3 and one off of a blown face-off coverage by a Sioux player.
5. Sioux defense won the game against DU. By that, I mean all 6 guys on the ice. How many blocked shots? DC was deadly that game, deadly, deadly, deadly. What a FF for him.
6. BB - may be the best player on the ice at the FF. Him or DC.
7. CBS >> CCM, Pacific Rim, QU.
8. QU vs. UND officiating crew should retire or go torment PeeWee hockey players. No room for that level of competence in college hockey.

Even though the final game was pretty one sided, this is the most ridiculous homer drivel that I have read in a while. It's OK to revel in a championship, but most of your statements are so patently one sided and false that you sound foolish.

 

[dainthomas]

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No, I'm not. A few years ago the NCAA might have told ESPN to avoid Sioux jerseys and signs in the crowd, but now they've moved on. As long as UND doesn't officially do anything, and they won't, the NCAA no longer cares about this issue.

Except for the "legacy" gear or whatever they still sell in the bookstore to maintain the trademark. Laughable.

Had a great time cheering on the team with some fellow alumni at the viewing party in Kirkland, WA. Glad to finally get over the hump. With all the talent from the Hakstol era, it's amazing how long it's been.

 

[Darius]

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Another F-bomb, not sure who uttered it, was captured from the UND bench near game's end. Something like "Who the eff are you?" directed at the Q bench.

Not dismissing the talent, but the UND simply wanted it more. Perhaps the first time Q experienced that all season? UND was prepared to do any and everything to end a 16 year drought and make a Fighting Sioux statement.

"SIOUX-FOR-EVER" chant? BEST-THING-EVER.

 

[burd]

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Even though the final game was pretty one sided, this is the most ridiculous homer drivel that I have read in a while. It's OK to revel in a championship, but most of your statements are so patently one sided and false that you sound foolish.

Even though UND outplayed Q for most of the game, the plain truth is that if a couple of Q's pipes had gone in the final outcome might have been different. UND was due for a few breaks in this event, but if you win one of these things, you have to feel indebted to one hockey god or another.

 

[manurespreader]

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I thought that UND had a better defense in that Quinnipiac was unable to really force many turnovers, as they usually do and did vs BC.The defensemen were good enough to move the puck to an open guy better than almost any other team. So that was one difference. Second, the pp of UND was really much better than any one else. amazingly good. Third, the UND forwards were very adept at running picks to get entry into the offensive zone. They did it sometimes multiple times on a particular rush, and got away with it.
I didn't think the Refereeing was much of a factor, but both teams got away with a lot. I didn't much like all the elbows UND threw but meh.
I agree with BURD, those posts really hurt, but Q didn't get that many grade A chances and didn't really capitalize on the ones they had.

 

[Tiggsy]

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Congrats to UND.

Didn't watch them much this season but what I did see was impressive. Definitely the best two teams playing for the title.


Seems that I missed a little fun in here last night.


The way I see it, while not ideal, the Sioux winning another title will chap the **** out of Gopher fan *** and is therefore a good thing.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Especially when they're chapping my enemy's ***.




Well done Sioux. And Sioux fan, don't hold back on Gopher fan. You know they wouldn't.

This is not the time for good sportsmanship or being magnanimous.


And finally, while I know that UND has us by a couple...


6 is still > than 5.

I guess that we should be flattered we're still in your heads no matter what. That plus the "F the gophers" chant from GF and this weekend. Sad. But just looks like we still have an impact everywhere, even if we're not playing.

Congrats to the Fighting Hawks. Pretty much no stopping them since they had such a good tournament.

But remember the Sioux did not win it. They will never win again. If we need to accept the B1G, then you need to accept the name change.

 

[huskyfan]

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"SIOUX-FOR-EVER" chant? BEST-THING-EVER.

came through loud and clear on TV and I loved it! you darned hostile and abusives

 

[huskyfan]

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Their goalkeeper rips off his own mask while laying down; at least a minor penalty.

that was so obvious! couldn't believe they didn't call that - the only person near his helmet was his own hand.

 

[SJHovey]

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I thought that UND had a better defense in that Quinnipiac was unable to really force many turnovers, as they usually do and did vs BC.The defensemen were good enough to move the puck to an open guy better than almost any other team. So that was one difference. Second, the pp of UND was really much better than any one else. amazingly good. Third, the UND forwards were very adept at running picks to get entry into the offensive zone. They did it sometimes multiple times on a particular rush, and got away with it.
I didn't think the Refereeing was much of a factor, but both teams got away with a lot. I didn't much like all the elbows UND threw but meh.
I agree with BURD, those posts really hurt, but Q didn't get that many grade A chances and didn't really capitalize on the ones they had.

There are only two things that I'd disagree with you on.

First, I don't think UND's pp was very good. The pk was excellent all tournament, but our pp by and large sucked at the Frozen Four.

Second, there were actually two pipes hit for each team. People forget that real early in that game Tucker Poolman absolutely blasted one from the point that clanged off the pipe when it was still 0-0. Later, in the 2nd period, Nick Schmaltz had a wrist shot that hit the pipe on a shot that would have made it 3-1.

 

[siouxinminny]

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Even though the final game was pretty one sided, this is the most ridiculous homer drivel that I have read in a while. It's OK to revel in a championship, but most of your statements are so patently one sided and false that you sound foolish.

I thought Yalees were taught how to argue using logic and reason. Isn't that what the Ivy spend is all about? Or did you get your feelings hurt with my post and need to create a safe zone for yourself?

I don't mind some pushback but you have to do better than that. Tell me where I was wrong.

 

[FireKnight]

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1. Denver was a tougher opponent than Northeastern, Michigan and Quinnipiac in our NCAA tournament field. Denver was faster, smarter and better organized than any other opponent. They played hockey the right way.
Saying Denver was faster then QU (or hell, even Michigan) is a complete joke. I do think they were more organized, probably had the best gameplan to combat the Sioux.
2. Quinnipiac was in this game only because of the officiating. Their goalkeeper rips off his own mask while laying down; at least a minor penalty. Their defensemen lay on top of our forwards after a check; no call. Their forwards don't get called for obvious charging penalties. Cam Johnson gets cross-checked while laying down with the puck late the game; no call.
The officiating largely went against QU in the game. ND was almost to goon level out there and that's impressive against a team that is probably the dirtiest in the ECAC. Even looking away from the non-calls, there were 3 UND penalties that should have been majors, the most glaring of which was the cross-check of Garteig. The officials reviewed all 3, and I've got to think the NCAA was in their ears saying a game DQ in the national final would look bad.
3. Quinnipiac had no answer for speed and skill. I was looking forward to playing them as I thought they were better than BC, UML and RIT; the teams they beat. Quinnipiac would finish mid-standings in the NCHC.
QU had no answers on offense and couldn't create any grade A chances. It was the defense that kept the Sioux ahead in the game, not the offense.
4. Cam Johnson was spectacular this weekend. He gave up 3 goals; one inadvertent tip off a Sioux player (Asmus), one on a 5-on-3 and one off of a blown face-off coverage by a Sioux player.
5. Sioux defense won the game against DU. By that, I mean all 6 guys on the ice. How many blocked shots? DC was deadly that game, deadly, deadly, deadly. What a FF for him.
6. BB - may be the best player on the ice at the FF. Him or DC.
7. CBS >> CCM, Pacific Rim, QU.
8. QU vs. UND officiating crew should retire or go torment PeeWee hockey players. No room for that level of competence in college hockey.
As much as I'm not a fan of the BIG/CCHA officiating, they did a good job keeping control of the game. They handed the game to UND by letting the illegal hitting go but they were consistent.

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[SJHovey]

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I don't put much stock in what SIM has to say, ordinarily, especially since he has taken to only showing up around here about once a year, when things are going great.

However, I personally tend to agree that DU just might have been the second best team in the country by the end of the year. I think they kind of get overlooked due to their slow start to the season. But most people forget how really good they were in the latter part of last year, and were probably the team that gave eventual champ Providence a tougher time than any other.

While they lost a few senior character guys from that team, and one really good defenseman, they were a pre-season top 5 team. In the second half they were darn near unbeatable. DU no doubt benefited from their familiarity with UND, but I think they would have been no worse than a coin flip against either BC or QU had they beaten UND in the semis.

 

[QUAlum2004]

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I don't put much stock in what SIM has to say, ordinarily, especially since he has taken to only showing up around here about once a year, when things are going great.

However, I personally tend to agree that DU just might have been the second best team in the country by the end of the year. I think they kind of get overlooked due to their slow start to the season. But most people forget how really good they were in the latter part of last year, and were probably the team that gave eventual champ Providence a tougher time than any other.

While they lost a few senior character guys from that team, and one really good defenseman, they were a pre-season top 5 team. In the second half they were darn near unbeatable. DU no doubt benefited from their familiarity with UND, but I think they would have been no worse than a coin flip against either BC or QU had they beaten UND in the semis.

This I agree with which is why I was openly rooting for Denver at fergy's in Tampa. UND just had too much high end talent for QU to overcome with the CBS Line.

 

[LTsatch]

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I thought Yalees were taught how to argue using logic and reason. Isn't that what the Ivy spend is all about? Town not gown, but your stereotypes are really appreciated, did you type that under the wifi emitting tree on the plains? Or did you get your feelings hurt with my post and need to create a safe zone for yourself? Quite safe with Yale's record over The Sioux over the past seven years.

I don't mind some pushback but you have to do better than that. Tell me where I was wrong.

FireKnight pretty much summed it up above. Saying that QU is mid level to the teams in your conference is the worst statement, You hit them on a night when the best player for QU was seriously injured and the goalie chose to have one of his worst nights ever. He doesn't screw up that play it is 1-1 after 2. not saying UND did not outplay them, but there was a window there until they fell apart in the third. QU's defense also let them down big time.

 

[walrus]

QU had no answer for UND speed, it was obvious in the 1st, they gained the blue line easily and at speed. It was like watching pretty near every team against Maine. No answers. I also thought QU interfered early and often. It wasn't blatant like the cheap crap the Sioux did early in the game but I saw those calls in HE this season. QU was good just not that good.

 

[RENCEB]

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Even though the final game was pretty one sided, this is the most ridiculous homer drivel that I have read in a while. It's OK to revel in a championship, but most of your statements are so patently one sided and false that you sound foolish.

+1

 

[Biddco]

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Biggest reason why UND won? Their defense. Q couldn't get anything going within the slot area and had big trouble in breakouts/transition. Johnson made the saves he had too but without that defensive effort it might have been a different game.

 

[QUAlum2004]

Biggest reason why UND won? Their defense. Q couldn't get anything going within the slot area and had big trouble in breakouts/transition. Johnson made the saves he had too but without that defensive effort it might have been a different game.

The UND defense got their sticks on everything breaking any chance at Quinnipiac making clean passes in the offensive zone. Give credit where credit is due to the UND defense.

 

[SiouxFanatic]

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The officiating largely went against QU in the game. ND was almost to goon level out there and that's impressive against a team that is probably the dirtiest in the ECAC. Even looking away from the non-calls, there were 3 UND penalties that should have been majors, the most glaring of which was the cross-check of Garteig. The officials reviewed all 3, and I've got to think the NCAA was in their ears saying a game DQ in the national final would look bad.

Both teams were pulling the same crap which is exactly why there was a couple of 4x4 stretches of play. The Stecher and Caggiula penalties were very stupid though which I readily concede. QU made them pay for it by scoring quickly on the 5x3 PP. The penalties that were called on UND were legit.