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The New WCHA (2013-14)

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The more I read into Roku development, isn't it an open community? All it would take is a couple of crafty <strike>Michigan Techies</strike> technologically intuitive people to create the app and submit it for everyone else to use? Sort of like how one of our fellow USCHO posters created the College Hockey News app for iPhone/iPod?

So as long as the WCHA was willing to share with the creators how to access the stream via Roku...

Invite UAH to join and who knows, some of those folks know a thing or two about launching things like satelites into orbit ;)
 
Invite UAH to join and who knows, some of those folks know a thing or two about launching things like satelites into orbit ;)

Kidding aside, I have it on good authority (beyond what's been seen in the media) that the WCHA is actively pursuing options for a 10th team, that they have informally talked to UAH, and that at least both Alaska schools would be supportive of adding Huntsville. Time will tell if it happens with UAH, but don't expect the WCHA to stay at nine teams.
 
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Now wait a minute. I agree with almost every aspect of your post but I am breathless with anticipation to hear about this hockey knowledge that exists in Mankato and not in Omaha.

I'll retract that statement. I should have said Denver or State College. I went to Omaha for a Ferris game back in their CCHA days and was really impressed by the whole thing. Plus, the USHL is alive and well on the Great Plains.

We all seem to agree that the New WCHA should have an aggressive internet presence. Broadcasting games is the first step and I think all the schools should commit to ensuring they have bright lights in the arena (so it doesn't look like Nassau Coliseum) and at least one HD camera. High quality HD cameras are available under $1,000 and there is no reason the teams can't take these small steps to greatly improve the video quality of the game for online viewers. I also like the idea of on demand coach's shows, press conferences, a weekly league show and team podcasts on the web channel and league website. A lot of user generated content would be welcomed too, it would just be nice if the league would take the effort to centralize it all in one location.

I just hope the league doesn't sit around and let the other conferences get a two year head start.
 
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I think once NMU had their new marketing based AD in place, they'll be looking to take some reigns. It's going to take money to make money on this, and if it's the Red Baron Pizza WCHA video player presented by Wells Fargo... So be it.
 
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Kidding aside, I have it on good authority (beyond what's been seen in the media) that the WCHA is actively pursuing options for a 10th team, that they have informally talked to UAH, and that at least both Alaska schools would be supportive of adding Huntsville. Time will tell if it happens with UAH, but don't expect the WCHA to stay at nine teams.

I'm warming to this idea too. Even at ten teams there is room for the addition of two more should the right programs come along. Maybe Western will get tired of getting shellacked or Mercyhurst will deserve a closer look.
 
I'm warming to this idea too. Even at ten teams there is room for the addition of two more should the right programs come along. Maybe Western will get tired of getting shellacked or Mercyhurst will deserve a closer look.

I have the feeling it's "sh*t or get off the pot time" for Moorhead. UAH is waiting (once again) for an invitation to a conference, and the WCHA is looking at nice round numbers. The new WCHA member schools have until this summer before scheduling non-conference games for 2013-14 becomes virtually impossible. UAH would likely want to know how many NC games it needs to not schedule.


If the WCHA goes up to 12 teams, I'd be a little ticked that the AHA schools didn't want to move to the CCHA to keep that going.
 
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I'll retract that statement. I should have said Denver or State College. I went to Omaha for a Ferris game back in their CCHA days and was really impressed by the whole thing. Plus, the USHL is alive and well on the Great Plains.

O.K., in fairness, I probably should let you off the hook for that one since I frankly can understand why there might be some "legitimate" sentiment like what you retracted above.

Our program has only existed at the D-1 level since 1997. We were a middle of the road CCHA team for much of our existence. How much success and legacy we've had as a hockey program in that time is rather debatable, probably, to outsiders. Believe me, I have wondered to some degree what we did to merit inclusion in the new conference and I have just decided to thank my lucky stars and sit back and enjoy. Our historical perspective isn't sullied by decades of tradition and I think UNO fan, by and large, is just happy to be included in with hockey's elite (uh oh, flame away, everybody not in the NCHC) in the new conference. There is a thread in one of the Gopher forums that addresses the whole "what did UNO do to be given the keys to the city and what are they doing there with all those other teams?" sentiment. Even as a UNO fan, I admit it is a valid question.

In the time since the inaugural season, we've made the CCHA final once and lost, had 2 NCAA appearances with no wins (well, whether that is true or not is still VERY debatable, Michigan fan), had 5 All Americans, 2 Hobey Baker finalists, had five 20 wins seasons, and been in the top five in attendance, nationally, since the program's inception. That is a pretty "light" resume' compared to some other teams that could have been there instead of us, the most obvious two candidates being, IMHO, Lake Superior State and Bemidiji State. We can't hold a candle to either team insofar as program history and pedigree is concerned and they are on the "outside" looking in. I can understand then, to some degree, why they or any other team in the new WCHA might be wondering "why UNO" and not them.

That said, UNO has many intangibles. They will have the largest arena in the new conference, by far. Omaha is a major metropolitan area and is centrally located, geographically, within the new conference. They are probably the only D-1 school playing hockey in the country where every fan of every other team in the country knows who our Head Coach is AND who our Athletic Director is. UNO has the largest hockey booster club in all of D-1 hockey. The Blue Line Club has more than 2000 members! The CCHA press guide, our last year in the conference, said it was larger than the booster clubs of all the other CCHA teams combined, at that time. The school was/is so serious about being a hockey school that they punted their football program and wrestling programs last fall to show how serious about that they really were. This happened the very day that the wrestling program won its 2nd consecutive national championship! Finally, the amount of money that exists in Omaha, which is just under a million in metro area population, is something you have to live here and see to believe for a city this size. Do not forget that the 3rd richest man in the world lives here, banks here, his business is located here, his equally rich family all live here, and that Omaha is the headquarters of five Fortune 500 companies! That's more Fortune 500 companies than are headquartered in the entire State of Missouri, a vastly larger state, to give you an idea. These aren't just "any" Fortune 500 companies, either. They include the #7 company on the the entire list (Berkshire Hathaway), the largest railroad in the world, the largest food company in the world, the largest construction company in the world, and one of the largest insurance companies in the United States. There are no professional sports teams to compete for sports dollars here, either (or, for the expendable income of all the executives and management of all these companies, either). The only real competition they have there is the Huskers. If you have ever wondered why the Huskers can have the success they do in such a "small" state as this one, now you know why.

I think the NCHC sees/saw the same thing I believe that Coach Blais saw here when he took the job (maybe Trev, too). A sleeping giant. UNO has the potential to be a very significant player in the new conference and Omaha gives them an option and arena for the conference tournament in a city with an unprecedented record of hosting NCAA events that matches up with that of ANY other city's and then some.

All this said, if I was in any town where the new WCHA is going to reside, I can well understand why maybe they might be wondering "why not us?". I think the answer is dollars and future potential.
 
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Trying to re-steer this towards the new WCHA talk, I think we're seeing this season just what the PWR can do to negate a "super conference" from rolling too much. Non-conference games are going to mean a lot in 2013-14 and beyond.
 
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I'll retract that statement. I should have said Denver or State College. I went to Omaha for a Ferris game back in their CCHA days and was really impressed by the whole thing. Plus, the USHL is alive and well on the Great Plains.
Another stupid comparison.

The Colorado Avalanche have the NHL record for the longest consecutive attendance sell outs with 487.
 
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Another stupid comparison.

The Colorado Avalanche have the NHL record for the longest consecutive attendance sell outs with 487.

I don't think the first comparison was stupid. No disrespect to Omaha, both trips I went on had nothing but nice and friendly fans, but I would put them dead last if I had to rank the average hockey IQ of fans from all the towns I've seen college hockey in. That's not to say they're complete morons, just wouldn't put them on par with fans from Minneapolis, St. Paul, St. Cloud, Grand Forks, Mankato, Madison, etc.
 
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I don't think the first comparison was stupid. No disrespect to Omaha, both trips I went on had nothing but nice and friendly fans, but I would put them dead last if I had to rank the average hockey IQ of fans from all the towns I've seen college hockey in. That's not to say they're complete morons, just wouldn't put them on par with fans from Minneapolis, St. Paul, St. Cloud, Grand Forks, Mankato, Madison, etc.

I agree completely. nice people, nice arena. not alot of hockey knowledge. we heard some really stupid comments from fans "where did the goalie go? (delayed penalty) "why did they game stop" (penalty) I'm ok with that - they are new to hockey. Omaha got included in the new league for two reasons.

it's an easy trip from Denver.
Dean Blais.

that's it. curious George doesn't like complicated travel schedules.
 
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Another stupid comparison.

The Colorado Avalanche have the NHL record for the longest consecutive attendance sell outs with 487.

They wouldn't have the record if the city started out with an expansion team instead of a established franchise.
 
I agree in the premise. The question for all the new WCHA is whether there will be leadership and a willingness to actually work together. Or will it be when the Nacho comes calling for a new team will a rat run like one or two already have.
Of course they will. Do kids abandon their nerd friends if the cool kids invite them to hang around?
 
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Well I'm not buying to tell the truth. the premise is that somehow those of us left are never going to be capable to compete with the und's of the world. I completely disagree with that. Maybe in the very short term it would be easier, but I don't see it as easier to get in long term at all. I see a number of committed programs, hard working coaches, and ranked programs. The teams in the new WCHA are tough and winning will be every bit as difficult as in the old. It seems kind of condescending to me to assume that the only way one of these teams can win is to lower the bar.
 
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