Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
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The new Super League is going down the tubes.
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Bronzebacks
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Considering the team that knocked Yale out won the National Title, how is that so flawed?
Considering the team that knocked Yale out won the National Title, how is that so flawed?
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Because they're an EZAC team! They shouldn't have even been ranked!
Because they're an EZAC team! They shouldn't have even been ranked!
Bronzebacks
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
You realize who you are emulating don't you?
You realize who you are emulating don't you?
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
The PWR/RPI rewards winning, period.
KRACH rewards winning against strong opposition.
Hopefully, with increased NC games both rating will be more robust and accurate.
The PWR/RPI rewards winning, period.
KRACH rewards winning against strong opposition.
Hopefully, with increased NC games both rating will be more robust and accurate.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
No, I wouldn't becuase I'd never be able to collect on that bet!
True. But if I gave you $1. Would you wager 1,000,000 to 1 that the Big Ten or NCHC would never get 6 teams in?
No, I wouldn't becuase I'd never be able to collect on that bet!
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
And there is the crux of DG's posts.
Hypothetical situations that fit in with his preferred way of thinking and childish emotional viewpoints.
And there is the crux of DG's posts.
Hypothetical situations that fit in with his preferred way of thinking and childish emotional viewpoints.
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Ahhh so he's a member of the Tea Party....that all makes sense now.
And there is the crux of DG's posts.
Hypothetical situations that fit in with his preferred way of thinking and childish emotional viewpoints.
Ahhh so he's a member of the Tea Party....that all makes sense now.
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
So the ECAC is a "power conference" then?
So the ECAC is a "power conference" then?
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
As I said in another thread it's a mistake for UMD not to remain with the other Minnesota/Michigan DII schools.
Lets be clear on one thing. UMD will not entertain any thoughts of going DI in its other sports. Their athletic budget cannot handle it and they'd most likely run into Title IX issues. Their ability to get into a conference is an issue. So, lets end that silly talk.
UMD does not own their rink. They share revenues with the DECC putting more stress on their ability to raise revenue. If their budget is like most other schools in DII with DI hockey, they most likely lose money on all their other sports. The new league will exert additional stress on their athletic budget due to added travel costs. All away conference games are now flying trips (except UND). From a financial standpoint they'd be much better in a regional DII conference with rivalries.
As much as people think athletics lead to increased enrollment there are studies that show this simply is not true (Ohio University study). And, in a niche sport like hockey it's even less true.
A TV contract will not bail them out. The NCHC admitted in their press conference that a TV contract is not about revenue. It's about exposure. I highly doubt as a whole, the NCHC generates more than minimal interest. Please tell me what national audience gives a rat about UMD vs UNO, DENVER vs MIAMI, CC vs UNO. As things exist now, There's already a large number of games on various channels each weekend. And, the ratings are marginal.
Certainly the drafted blue-chippers get led in the direction of UND, DENVER and the BIG TEN schools. However, there are many quality players that nary have a clue about the school they are comitting to. I've had players tell me they've gone to a school simply because they liked the logo. They had a teammate go there. I've seen kids commit without a visit. Believe me even if the SCSU Huskies are in the leftover WCHA they'll get their share of recruits because they will have a newly remodeled rink with a great lockerroom, weight room & plyometrics area. And, because its affordable and because it's Minnesota and because the parents can travel to most home and away games. There are enough hockey players to make most college teams competitive against each other from any league.
The more I look at this the less concerned I am about the NCHC or the BIG TEN. The real beneficiary of this is UND. They beef up their non-conference schedule, get the conference tourney in Grand Forks and eliminate trips to UAA and MTU. bUT, UND is a totally different animal than most teams including Denver.
In the long run, from a competitive, budget and success standpoint UMD (as an island of MN schools) is in my opinion making a mistake. Time will tell.
As I said in another thread it's a mistake for UMD not to remain with the other Minnesota/Michigan DII schools.
Lets be clear on one thing. UMD will not entertain any thoughts of going DI in its other sports. Their athletic budget cannot handle it and they'd most likely run into Title IX issues. Their ability to get into a conference is an issue. So, lets end that silly talk.
UMD does not own their rink. They share revenues with the DECC putting more stress on their ability to raise revenue. If their budget is like most other schools in DII with DI hockey, they most likely lose money on all their other sports. The new league will exert additional stress on their athletic budget due to added travel costs. All away conference games are now flying trips (except UND). From a financial standpoint they'd be much better in a regional DII conference with rivalries.
As much as people think athletics lead to increased enrollment there are studies that show this simply is not true (Ohio University study). And, in a niche sport like hockey it's even less true.
A TV contract will not bail them out. The NCHC admitted in their press conference that a TV contract is not about revenue. It's about exposure. I highly doubt as a whole, the NCHC generates more than minimal interest. Please tell me what national audience gives a rat about UMD vs UNO, DENVER vs MIAMI, CC vs UNO. As things exist now, There's already a large number of games on various channels each weekend. And, the ratings are marginal.
Certainly the drafted blue-chippers get led in the direction of UND, DENVER and the BIG TEN schools. However, there are many quality players that nary have a clue about the school they are comitting to. I've had players tell me they've gone to a school simply because they liked the logo. They had a teammate go there. I've seen kids commit without a visit. Believe me even if the SCSU Huskies are in the leftover WCHA they'll get their share of recruits because they will have a newly remodeled rink with a great lockerroom, weight room & plyometrics area. And, because its affordable and because it's Minnesota and because the parents can travel to most home and away games. There are enough hockey players to make most college teams competitive against each other from any league.
The more I look at this the less concerned I am about the NCHC or the BIG TEN. The real beneficiary of this is UND. They beef up their non-conference schedule, get the conference tourney in Grand Forks and eliminate trips to UAA and MTU. bUT, UND is a totally different animal than most teams including Denver.
In the long run, from a competitive, budget and success standpoint UMD (as an island of MN schools) is in my opinion making a mistake. Time will tell.
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Let's be honest, without a new rink AND a national title, UMD isn't even in the NCHC conversation.
Let's be honest, without a new rink AND a national title, UMD isn't even in the NCHC conversation.
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
I don't know about that.
Minnesota still has the country's largest fan base and the largest recruiting grounds. It is the anchor for hockey in the region and it sits too close to many of the National schools to ignore. Even in softer seasons, UMD would have the top rep of the remaining Minn schools and the city of Duluth is the regional capital of the richest per capita hockey recruiting grounds in the country.
If there is anyone among those who quit the wcha with a strategic thought in their head...they would quickly realize that UMD should be a no brainer.
I don't know about that.
Minnesota still has the country's largest fan base and the largest recruiting grounds. It is the anchor for hockey in the region and it sits too close to many of the National schools to ignore. Even in softer seasons, UMD would have the top rep of the remaining Minn schools and the city of Duluth is the regional capital of the richest per capita hockey recruiting grounds in the country.
If there is anyone among those who quit the wcha with a strategic thought in their head...they would quickly realize that UMD should be a no brainer.
Tipsy McStagger
Falling on fans at NHC since 2001
Then explain why they finish in the lower half of the WCHA 3 out of every 4 years...
beersong
GO DOGS!
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Because A) they had the league's oldest arena and B) they couldn't lock up the local talent. They got A taken care of, and doing better on B.
So UMD was already playing 4 of these schools in the WCHA and now adds Miami, but loses UAA. They will no longer have to head east to find non-conference games (Providence, Clarkson, Vermont being recent examples).. they can bus to Bemidji, Minneapolis, St Cloud, Mankato, Madison, or Houghton to fill the schedule. So tell me how this drastically increases the travel costs?
Because A) they had the league's oldest arena and B) they couldn't lock up the local talent. They got A taken care of, and doing better on B.
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So UMD was already playing 4 of these schools in the WCHA and now adds Miami, but loses UAA. They will no longer have to head east to find non-conference games (Providence, Clarkson, Vermont being recent examples).. they can bus to Bemidji, Minneapolis, St Cloud, Mankato, Madison, or Houghton to fill the schedule. So tell me how this drastically increases the travel costs?
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
With the talk of NCAA bids, let's remember that there is no NCHC NCAA Bid for the conference champ till 2016....
With the talk of NCAA bids, let's remember that there is no NCHC NCAA Bid for the conference champ till 2016....
Maybe no autobid, but they'll be in.
Biddco
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Add to that the talent they did recruited, never lived up to the expectations.
Add to that the talent they did recruited, never lived up to the expectations.
uaafanblog
AKA - "Drop The Puck"
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Cos all those WCHA teams will be lining up to schedule teams that left the conference.
Cos all those WCHA teams will be lining up to schedule teams that left the conference.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
Exactly what I was thinking. The WCHA teams are going east for non conference games. There won't be many, if any, games against the BHHC.
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