The new Super League is going down the tubes.

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.

The same reason that SCSU's Prez Potter didn't want to join the NCHC. University presidents don't think or care about the fans.

The ACC is considered to be a better "academic" conference than the B1G or PAC. USN&WR rankings confirm this.

Keep in mind that nobody knows what Notre Dame will do.

Hammy and Harley are both correct, but how long until the TV dollars get so enormous that some SEC schools [Bama, Florida, Tennessee] or B1G schools [OSU, MI, PSU] want to cut out the dead wood [Vandy, Miss State, Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota]?

There's no end to all of this. Everytime a BCS TV contract comes up, somebody will be stabbing somebody else in the back. Today its Baylor, Iowa State and Kansas State getting screwed. Five years from now it will be someone else.

Many Notre Dame posters on BCS message boards seem to think that Notre Dame will end up in the ACC. I think what we are seeing this week is that the ADs and Football coaches at Texas & ND want to go to the B1G and the school presidents want to go to the ACC.

Great, but how many dollar signs more is a TV contract for college football worth with the U of Chicago included? You think these schools are getting together for academics? Yeah, I'm sure academics are what drew TCU to the Big East or TAMU to the SEC. When I think of prolific schools, I think of Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA and...Oklahoma.

You're talking in 2 different universes. We're talking about dggoddard's suggestion that those in the know at ND would choose the ACC for academics/likeminded institutions when in reality, the B1G (with the CIC) is considered second only to the Ivy's in overall prestige academic/research wise. Discussing academics to decisions by the Big East and SEC is funny because they aren't on the same level as the ACC, Pac-12 or B1G TEN. Obviously $$$ is first but it was only about the money, Notre Dame would be in the Big Ten already. So maybe it will take an academic angle to convince Notre Dame to give up its independence.

 

[Priceless]

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You're talking in 2 different universes. We're talking about dggoddard's suggestion that those in the know at ND would choose the ACC for academics/likeminded institutions when in reality, the B1G (with the CIC) is considered second only to the Ivy's in overall prestige academic/research wise. Discussing academics to decisions by the Big East and SEC is funny because they aren't on the same level as the ACC, Pac-12 or B1G TEN. Obviously $$$ is first but it was only about the money, Notre Dame would be in the Big Ten already. So maybe it will take an academic angle to convince Notre Dame to give up its independence.

The PR Director of the LTHC is usually wrong, so this isn't the first time
His logic falls apart when he suggests Notre Dame would select the ACC for ANY reason. The ACC is going to fall apart (FSU is already looking at leaving) and be left as a refuge for hoops schools. Notre Dame is not a hoops school. Notre Dame is more likely to consider the SEC than the ACC. An SEC TV contract with TAMU, ND and FSU in the mix would net them a payday that would at least rival, if not surpass (depending on the 16th team), the BTN.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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The PR Director of the LTHC is usually wrong, so this isn't the first time
His logic falls apart when he suggests Notre Dame would select the ACC for ANY reason. The ACC is going to fall apart (FSU is already looking at leaving) and be left as a refuge for hoops schools. Notre Dame is not a hoops school. Notre Dame is more likely to consider the SEC than the ACC. An SEC TV contract with TAMU, ND and FSU in the mix would net them a payday that would at least rival, if not surpass (depending on the 16th team), the BTN.

I will say the one thing he had right is that the majority of the ACC matches up with Notre Dame better from a "likeminded institution" standpoint. Most of the ACC is smaller, private institutions focused on undergraduate studies.

 

[bronconick]

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I will say the one thing he had right is that the majority of the ACC matches up with Notre Dame better from a "likeminded institution" standpoint. Most of the ACC is smaller, private institutions focused on undergraduate studies.

This is probably an understated point in ND/Big Ten relations. I'm sure the faculty would kill to get into the CIC, but what does the university think of being immersed in a giant consortium controlled by high research secular universities? They aren't even AAU, so it's clearly not a huge priority. And our one point of actual evidence has Notre Dame in the Big East for non-football, which is full of small Catholic universities. I think they like their Catholic "slant" as much as they like their independence and of the three "academic" conferences, that's a lean to the ACC.

 

[HarleyMC]

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This is probably an understated point in ND/Big Ten relations. I'm sure the faculty would kill to get into the CIC, but what does the university think of being immersed in a giant consortium controlled by high research secular universities? They aren't even AAU, so it's clearly not a huge priority. And our one point of actual evidence has Notre Dame in the Big East for non-football, which is full of small Catholic universities.

I think if Notre Dame said yes, without a doubt Delany would find a loopho...cough...cough...a way to bring them into the fold.

Asked if AAU membership was mandatory for expansion candidates, Delany said, "We're not there. I'm not going to qualify or disqualify, but it's a very important factor."

I'm sure the faculty would kill to get into the CIC, but what does the university think of being immersed in a giant consortium controlled by high research secular universities?... I think they like their Catholic "slant" as much as they like their independence and of the three "academic" conferences, that's a lean to the ACC.

Kaa...ching!! Check out the stylish T made and distributed last year by ND students when the rumor mill was spinning out the same rumors we are hearing now about the B1G courtship of the Dame from Notre:

 

[ozzie679]

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It doesn't matter what the kids at Notre Dame think about their football team joining a conference. It's inevitable.

 

[HarleyMC]

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It doesn't matter what the kids at Notre Dame think about their football team joining a conference. It's inevitable.

Ok.

 

[Rhett]

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Sure you can. See how easily I did it?

This is the official logo of the Integer, straight off their own website.

Please point out the logo of the University of Chicago.

Found it!

Ridiculous conference academic superiority argument over.

 

[dggoddard]

Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.

The PR Director of the LTHC is usually wrong, so this isn't the first time
His logic falls apart when he suggests Notre Dame would select the ACC for ANY reason. The ACC is going to fall apart (FSU is already looking at leaving) and be left as a refuge for hoops schools. Notre Dame is not a hoops school. Notre Dame is more likely to consider the SEC than the ACC. An SEC TV contract with TAMU, ND and FSU in the mix would net them a payday that would at least rival, if not surpass (depending on the 16th team), the BTN.

You're getting way above your paygrade.

Syracuse and Pittsburgh talking to the ACC.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-09-16/acc-in-talks-with-pitt-syracuse

The Texas ADs (Mens & Womens) flew to Oklahoma, Pittsburgh and Notre Dame on a private jet barnstoming tour last weekend. The Oklahoma talks didn't go so well. Now Pittsburgh is linked to the ACC. Texas is leaning ACC and Notre Dame is unknown, but has been kicking tires.

That being said, the Big East would be hurt mightily losing Pitt & 'Cuse and this sets up nicely for Notre Dame & Texas to join the ACC.

And all four schools fit into the ACC wheelhouse academically. ND #19, UT #45, Pitt #58, Cuse #62.

ACC Pods

Syracuse, BC, ND, Pitt

UNC, Duke, NCSU, Wake Forest

Miami, FSU, Texas, Georgia Tech

Clemson, UVA, MD, VT

 

[bronconick]

Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.

What I read elsewhere was Syracuse and Pitt joining in all sports, while Texas and Notre Dame join for non-football with an agreement to each play 4 ACC football teams a year in home and homes and keep their current TV deals. Between BC, Miami, GT, Maryland and FSU, Notre Dame seems to play at least one or two a year already.

If that happens, not an overwhelming win for the ACC, but probably enough to keep them relevant as the 4th conference if it reaches that point.

 

[CHFAN222]

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So the BE is officially dead for football?

 

[Skeeterman]

Oh so you're the one.

Is this still about hockey?

 

[Priceless]

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So the BE is officially dead for football?

Pitt told them to get to 12 teams or they were leaving. I don't know who would join the Big East now.
FMI, check the College Football thread

 

[joecct]

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What if the remaining Catholic schools in the Big East formed their own conference? That'd be 8 schools. Villanova plays football in the MAC and ND goes somewhere else.

I'd call it the Land 'O Lakes conference.

 

[bigmrg74]

Denver sounds like a good school for lesbians and other masculinely challenged types.

This might be one of the few times I'll agree with you.

 

[du78]

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Looks like Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State going to Pac 12.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/6989288/pac-12-working-deal-texas-oklahoma-oklahoma-state-texas-tech-according-source

 

[Osorojo]

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This might be one of the few times I'll agree with you.

Bravo. Consideration of the relationship between college hockey and college academics seemed to be gaining some scary acceptance. Back to chest-beating and vicarious masculine triumphs through celebrating real or imagined college hockey victories. Wannabes rule!

 

[Happy]

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Bravo. Consideration of the relationship between college hockey and college academics seemed to be gaining some scary acceptance. Back to chest-beating and vicarious masculine triumphs through celebrating real or imagined college hockey victories. Wannabes rule!

I take it you are a lesbian, then.

 

[burd]

Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.

Bravo. Consideration of the relationship between college hockey and college academics seemed to be gaining some scary acceptance. Back to chest-beating and vicarious masculine triumphs through celebrating real or imagined college hockey victories. Wannabes rule!

Give bigmrg a bit of a break, Oso. Nothing wrong with a little chest-beating, and Happy has been celebrating imagined college hockey victories out of necessity, not malevolence.

 

[bigmrg74]

Bravo. Consideration of the relationship between college hockey and college academics seemed to be gaining some scary acceptance. Back to chest-beating and vicarious masculine triumphs through celebrating real or imagined college hockey victories. Wannabes rule!

Your time of the month??