The new Super League is going down the tubes.

[SanTropez]

Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.

Jan should have worn a shorter skirt\tighter shirt to the party...

 

[Dirty Bottles]

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I could actually see travel expenses having nothing to do with SCSU's decision. SCSU may not be interested in the NCHC because they see a much clearer path to league championships and the NCAA tourny through the new WCHA. The NCHC is grabbing up schools who are used to competing for NCAA slots. Not all of those schools NCHC schools are going to be able to continue to grab NCAA slots, half of them have to finish in the bottom half of the league. If SCSU sees winning as the key to putting people in the stands and bringing money into the program, they may see the WCHA as making more sense for them going forward.

I think SCSU got caught with it's panties around its ankles and this is the version they'd love to spin. That said, I do think what you've described above is a reasonable outlook and now they're trying to convince themselves, their fans, and the big donors that it can work.

I do think it can work, IF you can maintain recruiting and keep a strong NC schedule....of course those a couple huge ifs...

 

[dggoddard]

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Why in the world would DU, CC make Miami's participation manditory? Are they part of the same cricket league or something?

Lets just say that if Gwozdecky & Enrico were any closer, they'd be married.

1989 - Gwozdecky hired by Miami

1989 - Gwozdecky recruited Enrico Blasi to Miami

1993 - Enrico named captain at Miami by Gwozdecky

1995 - Gwozdecky hires Enrico as a graduate assistant @ DU

1996-99 - Gwozdecky hires Enrico as Assistant Coach at DU

1999 - Enrico becomes youngest head coach in D-1

2006 - Enrico gets Gwozdecky nominated in Cradle of Coaches at Miami and DU opens Goggin Arena

 

[MUhawks628]

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2006 - Enrico gets Gwozdecky nominated in Cradle of Coaches at Miami and DU opens Goggin Arena

Which got Gwozdecky's picture on the wall at Goggin for all time, what more do you need!?


If you can dig up an interview from Gwoz after the Miami/BU title game, it will tell you all that you need to know on how he feels about Miami.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Jan should have worn a shorter skirt\tighter shirt to the party...

Some things are best left a mystery. This is one.

 

[UMDSimmerdown]

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UAA and UAF subsidize the travel to Alaska for their conference members, not the WCHA and CCHA. As long as the Alaska schools continue to do so, traveling to Alaska isn't a budget-breaker for their fellow schools. I do believe the arrangement that UAA has with the WCHA is a bit different than the one UAF has with the CCHA. But they both subsidize travel.

My 12th hand understanding is that the two schools purchase a set amount of tickets to their conference mates, somewhere between 20 and 25, and if you wanted to bring a bunch of reserves in addition to 20-21 skaters/coaches/trainer, the visiting school had to buy them themselves.

Thanks for the info, I've always known that flights were "subsidized" but never knew by whom and what the particulars were.

Lets just say that if Gwozdecky & Enrico were any closer, they'd be married.

Interesting that DU, CC, and Miami are all connected by coaches and UND, UNO, and UMD are all connected by coaches. I'm starting to think this league was hashed out during a drunken game of cards in Dean Blais' cabin.

 

[5mn_Major]

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Lets just say that if Gwozdecky & Enrico were any closer, they'd be married.

No...quit joking around.

OK...I can understand that Gwoz 'likes' Enrico. But how does that move possibly serve DU...as in the school, its students, its fans and the conference? Seems like a pretty selfish move...no?

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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No...quit joking around.

OK...I can understand that Gwoz 'likes' Enrico. But how does that move possibly serve DU...as in the school, its students, its fans and the conference? Seems like a pretty selfish move...no?

That whole conference is based on a bunch of people making selfish decisions is it not?

 

[dggoddard]

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No...quit joking around.

OK...I can understand that Gwoz 'likes' Enrico. But how does that move possibly serve DU...as in the school, its students, its fans and the conference? Seems like a pretty selfish move...no?

If you don't think that Miami is an "elite" hockey program, then you just don't get it. Great school, great arena, great coach, great recruiting & great program.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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If you don't think that Miami is an "elite" hockey program, then you just don't get it. Great school, great arena, great coach, great recruiting & great program.

small arena, no traveling fanbase...I take it you expect Magness to be packed for Miami@DU 2013?

 

[darker98]

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small arena, no traveling fanbase...I take it you expect Magness to be packed for Miami@DU 2013?

I'm being serious here Shirtless. dg, How was attendance with Mankato, Tech, SCSU, Duluth, BSU and Anchorage?

 

[dggoddard]

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small arena, no traveling fanbase...I take it you expect Magness to be packed for Miami@DU 2013?

Traveling fanbases are not important in a league where teams fly to games and a vast mast majority of the arenas will sell out.

Miami's arena is beautiful. If its small thats not much of an issue.

Magness sells out for elite opponents.

Miami also has a ton of alumni in Chicago which will come in handy if Notre Dame joins the conference. Obviously a lot of the initial success of the conference hinges on landing Notre Dame.

 

[dggoddard]

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I'm being serious here Shirtless. dg, How was attendance with Mankato, Tech, SCSU, Duluth, BSU and Anchorage?

The Saturday game against UAA was actually very good (6,000), but most of the other games were 1,000 short of capacity and suffered significant "no shows."

I think three things encouraged the Athletic Department make the move to the new conference. The success of the Lacrosse program, poor attendance against the schools you mentioned and the move to the WAC. DU wants to be a player in the Denver collegiate sports scene.

 

[uaafanblog]

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Who is going to subsidize them though? The WCHA won't have as much money in the coffer once the changes take place. Do UAA or UAF have extra money to fly the other schools out to them? I guess I've never understood the travel arrangements of the Alaska schools. Anyone have inside info as to how it all works? To be honest when all the realignment talks came up and everyone though BGSU and Ferris would be on the chopping block I though the two Alaska schools were the most likely candidates because you need big conferences with big money to absorb the travel costs.

So when UAA fans for years and years explained the travel subsidy in weekly game threads, team season threads and etc .... you were reading "the WCHA pays for travel to Alaska"?

^^^^^ Reason #17 for good riddance to NCHC programs -- Fan Ignorance ^^^^^

 

[willythekid]

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I for one will sure miss all of the incredible insight from alaska fans...

 

[Priceless]

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I for one will sure miss all of the incredible insight from alaska fans...

I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

 

[darker98]

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The Saturday game against UAA was actually very good (6,000), but most of the other games were 1,000 short of capacity and suffered significant "no shows."

I do have to say that UAA had 11,000 plus showing in GF, but here it's going to be any team.

 

[Montelena]

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We'll be keeping a keen eye on the blockbuster games such as:

UMD vs UNO
CC vs UNO
CC vs UMD
Denver vs Miami
Denver vs UNO

And, if somehow Western gets into the league (the odds are better now with hired gun Murray), can you imagine the excitement running throughout the west when UMD plays Western, CC vs Western, UNO vs Western -oh boy!

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

We'll be keeping a keen eye on the blockbuster games such as:

UMD vs UNO
CC vs UNO
CC vs UMD
Denver vs Miami
Denver vs UNO

And, if somehow Western gets into the league (the odds are better now with hired gun Murray), can you imagine the excitement running throughout the west when UMD plays Western, CC vs Western, UNO vs Western -oh boy!

Versus is getting moist just thinking about the ratings bonanza!

 

[Almington]

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If you don't think that Miami is an "elite" hockey program, then you just don't get it. Great school, great arena, great coach, great recruiting & great program.

You must have mistaken all of their participation banners as some type of actual worthwhile achievement. Unless being involved in one of the greatest choke jobs in recent history is now required for being an elite program, but I thought that only applied to the Gopher program of the 80s and 90s and the UND program under Hackstol.