Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Pretty sure soccer is on that list.
Pretty sure soccer is on that list.
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The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Depends on the percentage risk. If CTE happens to 1 hockey player in a thousand then that's a debate. For football that number seems to be something like 1 in 2.
It's on its way out like boxing and good riddance. I'm sure if we still had gladiatorial games people would be like "oh, so the snowflakes don't want to get impaled? Why, when I was your age..."
Depends on the percentage risk. If CTE happens to 1 hockey player in a thousand then that's a debate. For football that number seems to be something like 1 in 2.
It's on its way out like boxing and good riddance. I'm sure if we still had gladiatorial games people would be like "oh, so the snowflakes don't want to get impaled? Why, when I was your age..."
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dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Exactly. But 1 in 2 seems low.
Football has a half life and I'm guessing the NFL as we know it dies before Super Bowl 75. The more we learn about the science of concussions, the more insane playing football is going to be. Some day, playing football is going to be viewed the exact same way we view cigarettes today.
Seriously, the average football player lives something like 30 fewer years than the average basketball player. That's just not a product long for this world.
Exactly. But 1 in 2 seems low.
Football has a half life and I'm guessing the NFL as we know it dies before Super Bowl 75. The more we learn about the science of concussions, the more insane playing football is going to be. Some day, playing football is going to be viewed the exact same way we view cigarettes today.
Seriously, the average football player lives something like 30 fewer years than the average basketball player. That's just not a product long for this world.
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Again, I mention soccer. Headers is the key in this sport:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/health/brain-damage-dementia-cte-soccer-football-study/index.html
Again, I mention soccer. Headers is the key in this sport:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/health/brain-damage-dementia-cte-soccer-football-study/index.html
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
For soccer, it's still fairly new. And I know there is NO comparison to the NFL/NHL in percentages. It's dam near impossible to reach those numbers. But it is a factor. Where is the line?
For soccer, it's still fairly new. And I know there is NO comparison to the NFL/NHL in percentages. It's dam near impossible to reach those numbers. But it is a factor. Where is the line?
Same here. Now if they could get kids to kick with the left foot.....
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Sitting here, realizing I literally ran my health into the ground. With anemia, chronic fatigue syndrome, and some other things, I know I'm not helpless. I think I can beat most of this with dietary changes, such as more red meat, legumes, dark leafy greens, less coffee, and more water.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Nobody drinks enough water.
Nobody drinks enough water.
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
I go through about 3-4 liters a day. In summer, it's more...probably twice that.
I go through about 3-4 liters a day. In summer, it's more...probably twice that.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
I have a 24 oz sport bottle that I fill at least 6-7 times a day.
But I have to drop the coffee, which is part of the fatigue.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Yup. US Soccer doesn't allow for heading until they're 11.
There is actually a higher concussion rate in girls soccer than boys soccer as well.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
The counter I'm hearing: Our family history "most likely COD or massive change in lifestyle" events are (1) heart, (2) dementia, (3) pulmonary. There's nothing for colon cancer. Heck, the blood relative aunts/uncles (10) who have had the scope have a grand total of two polyps. Parents? Nada. However, we do have an uncle with no polyps and now no short term memory either. Thank you propofol.
My counter: So, do the pain killer without the sedative.
I base that on Europe where about half of exams are done with ... nothing. No sedative, no pain killers.
My reading also got me wondering about the drugs they use in the US: propofol or Versed. Both of those seem like overkill (<-- bad word choice). Those are "date rape" family drugs for a procedure that is done "native" in Europe. Starting to wonder if someone doesn't have a point.
The counter I'm hearing: Our family history "most likely COD or massive change in lifestyle" events are (1) heart, (2) dementia, (3) pulmonary. There's nothing for colon cancer. Heck, the blood relative aunts/uncles (10) who have had the scope have a grand total of two polyps. Parents? Nada. However, we do have an uncle with no polyps and now no short term memory either. Thank you propofol.
My counter: So, do the pain killer without the sedative.
I base that on Europe where about half of exams are done with ... nothing. No sedative, no pain killers.
My reading also got me wondering about the drugs they use in the US: propofol or Versed. Both of those seem like overkill (<-- bad word choice). Those are "date rape" family drugs for a procedure that is done "native" in Europe. Starting to wonder if someone doesn't have a point.
WisconsinWildcard
The plural of anecdote is not data
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
I would suspect something else may have happened as these are both very common medications used and for "twilight" sedation. There are millions of procedures a year that occur with this without this side effect.
Versed inhibits memory in a very similar mechanism to alcohol (as do all benzodiazepines). For status epilepticus patients, we can put them into a versed coma, sometimes lasting weeks and they still retain the ability to form new memories following removal of the coma.
Although often a good way to identify cause/effect, the temporal association of events (medication given-->memory loss) can often mislead, particularly when the mechanism does not fit the known pharmacodynamics and known side effects of the medication. Now if his blood pressure dropped (as is a very common side effect from propofol) there are other reasons (like cerebral hypoperfusion...or simply a form of stroke) for memory loss. Blood pressure drops should not be severe as it is something you monitor closely and can easily correct given the very short half life of propofol.
I would suspect something else may have happened as these are both very common medications used and for "twilight" sedation. There are millions of procedures a year that occur with this without this side effect.
Versed inhibits memory in a very similar mechanism to alcohol (as do all benzodiazepines). For status epilepticus patients, we can put them into a versed coma, sometimes lasting weeks and they still retain the ability to form new memories following removal of the coma.
Although often a good way to identify cause/effect, the temporal association of events (medication given-->memory loss) can often mislead, particularly when the mechanism does not fit the known pharmacodynamics and known side effects of the medication. Now if his blood pressure dropped (as is a very common side effect from propofol) there are other reasons (like cerebral hypoperfusion...or simply a form of stroke) for memory loss. Blood pressure drops should not be severe as it is something you monitor closely and can easily correct given the very short half life of propofol.
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
40% of cancers tied to obesity.
As I recall, you were pretty intense on the workouts...maybe too intense. Balance.
Not sure red meat is the answer. Keeping my personal workouts reasonable but consistent, yes water, and going mostly vegetarian. Never felt better.
40% of cancers tied to obesity.
As I recall, you were pretty intense on the workouts...maybe too intense. Balance.
Not sure red meat is the answer. Keeping my personal workouts reasonable but consistent, yes water, and going mostly vegetarian. Never felt better.
Re: The Medical Thread: We're experts on everything else; why not?
Some of the case studies on how ketogenic dieting abates psychosis better than drugs do is fascinating. One woman had schizophrenia for 60 years and got her best results from a "whole food" low carb diet. Pushing your diet even moderately in the direction of lowering carbs and raising fat may be generally good for mental stability and well being.
Some of the case studies on how ketogenic dieting abates psychosis better than drugs do is fascinating. One woman had schizophrenia for 60 years and got her best results from a "whole food" low carb diet. Pushing your diet even moderately in the direction of lowering carbs and raising fat may be generally good for mental stability and well being.