A big hearty fuck you to the men here that said the court would never touch this and we were all being hysterical.
and don’t start on me with the states rights bull****. They’ve amped up the federal ban talk just this morning
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I posted this in 2016 when the previous 'President' was elected. I was being 'over the top' and childish (someone who used to post on Board). Never forgot that post and his response. It was so incredible to me that anyone could be that clueless and ignorant as to feel there was going to be no change and if there was it wasn't bothersome.
Posted this earlier on FB. As a Medical provider (thankfully retired) W t EFF!!
This leaves me wondering a whole lot about medical ethics and legal ramifications. Some States have laws written by non-medical people, ignorant of basic medical facts, that are incongruent with standard of care ie treatment of ectopic pregnancy. If you deny a woman treatment of ectopic pregnancy, the tube ruptures and death or complete loss of fertility ensues- what then? Can the woman go to another State and sue saying she was denied standard medical care? Some of the laws make it illegal to advise women where to obtain the care that is considered life saving or standard of care. It is also legally and ethically required that medical professionals provide information regarding what care would be recommended. They also make it a felony to do what considered negligent to not do. It could be argued the law would precluded care but if these laws are allowing people to sue for breaking the law across State lines I can't see how this would not be equally possible.
With the completely schizoid rulings- women do not have bodily rights, fetus (not yet a sentient being) do. States have no rights to protect their citizens re guns but they are the only ones who have rights to compel a woman to forgo medical care. How they will deal with this dilemma? As a Provider, if I am caring for a woman, diagnose her with an ectopic pregnancy, and do not steer her to immediate treatment I would be sued- rightfully so. It is a life threatening condition and treatment is available. To not treat it is unethical, amoral, grounds to sue for negligence and loss of license. It would put her life at risk and for sure impair her fertility. Some of the trigger laws make it a felony to treat it or to advise where to go to get treatment for ectopic pregnancy, retained products of miscarriage, septic uterus, etc.
I want to know what pro-birth people think is next? In developed countries the US is the worst at many medical measures regarding maternal, child and family health care- availability of care, affordable care, maternal and infant mortality, childcare, parental leave, food insecurity, housing, education... (many of these measures have worsened since I was in nursing school in the late 70s-early 80s).
The States banning abortion are the worst at all of these stats. They do not fund at State level and depend on federal dollars which have also been decreasing. They also are vehemently against funding social net programs that would support families and help them be successful. Does this mean we are now going to see a wave of initiatives to address the deficiencies? Are we going to see even worse stats and keep hearing all about how these people shouldn't have kids if they can't afford them*.
Keep seeing- VOTE!! BS to that. The ignorant idiots who are promoting birth, with no plan past coming out the vagina, are elected by people just as ignorant as they are. The pockets of amoral and ethically challenged are gerrymandered into voting blocks that prevent voting from being successful. VOting is important but it isn't the cure.
We need to challenge those who are celebrating, claiming to be pro-'life'. They need to be asked the hard questions, they are the ones who have to take ownership of more than promoting birth. I cannot count the times I have heard trite answers in response to what happens after the birth occurs. Statistically pregnancy lowers socioeconomic expectations for the woman, for the couple- whether the pregnancy is planned or not. What are REAL answers that address supporting women and families?
*Many people are ignorant of the main reason people have abortion. Not every woman who accesses abortion is a sexpot, loose single woman who has sex indiscriminately. Many, many women are partnered or married, have other children, have birth control that failed and must make a choice to be able to feed themselves, their families, keep their jobs, etc. Almost every woman I counseled who chose abortion did so because they had barriers that would prevent them from continuing pregnancy from a moral standpoint
