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The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

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Remember when Georgia was turning blue in 2016? Yeah, me neither.
Well if all the voting machines don't magically disappear while a Republican oversaw his own election, Abrams is governor. As far as 2016 though, yeah, she wasn't winning there.
 
I have no words.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under the new Georgia law, a woman who miscarries could be liable for second-degree murder. If prosecutors can prove that she is somehow responsible, she can be imprisoned for 30 years. <a href="https://t.co/JFMMT0ttbA">pic.twitter.com/JFMMT0ttbA</a></p>— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1125857380468760582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

El Salvador is definitely the place you want to emulate your laws after.
 
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What's the going sentence for having a still born?

Also, can a man be prosecuted for not helping create a healthy environment for the woman (ex, exposing a pregnant woman to second hand smoke)?


Will not getting prenatal care be considered negligent? Who is going to pay for prenatal care (with employer sponsored health care, I'm already at $3,000 for prenatal care bills)?
 
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I’d refuse to visit these states if I had to for work. Hopefully some companies will start pulling business out.
I’ve had multiple miscarriages and no one should underestimate what these sick men will try and do.
 
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Add Ohio as another state to boycott.

I'm sure our local conservatives will tell us we're all just being "hysterical."

I agree with the idea for women (and men in solidarity) to refuse to visit these states on business or do business with companies based there. Make it hurt. Get commerce on our side. Drive the orcs into the sea (er, tire fire?).
 
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IMO, boycott threats are stupid and do not really add anything to the discussion. It's like when Freepers brag about not having cable TV, or how they fired that one smug liberal employee after Obama won in 2008, or other such "Boy, I sure owned them libs!" nonsense.

That being said, I would definitely not pull up roots and permanently move to any of these states.
 
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IMO, boycott threats are stupid and do not really add anything to the discussion.

Boycott threats are stupid. Boycotts themselves can work; it's happened. They are a form of people power and in a world where strikes don't work because workers don't matter they may be our best option. A consumer strike hits the 1% where they live and the 1% runs our government.

The problem with boycotts isn't the theory, it's how to do it effectively.
 
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I have no words.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Under the new Georgia law, a woman who miscarries could be liable for second-degree murder. If prosecutors can prove that she is somehow responsible, she can be imprisoned for 30 years. <a href="https://t.co/JFMMT0ttbA">pic.twitter.com/JFMMT0ttbA</a></p>— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1125857380468760582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is just absurd...
 
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Reimplanting eptopic pregnancy? Jfc we are totally and completely lost as a species here.
Save lives by killing moms! **** Ohio
 
Not according to your link.

Birth control pills, IUDs and other methods of birth control like that – the bill states that any birth control that could act to stop a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus is considered an abortion under this bill," Miracle says.

Yes it does.
 
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Birth control pills, IUDs and other methods of birth control like that – the bill states that any birth control that could act to stop a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus is considered an abortion under this bill," Miracle says.

Yes it does.

I wanted to do the Air Force Marathon in Dayton this year. With crap like this, though... if I pass through Ohio in my car, I better hope I don't run out of gas. I don't want to give Ohio a single dime of my money.
 
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Birth control pills, IUDs and other methods of birth control like that – the bill states that any birth control that could act to stop a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus is considered an abortion under this bill," Miracle says.

Yes it does.

Those are the only forms of birth control?
 
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Wow.
There are less than a handful of reasons as to why one would feel the need to split that hair, and none of them are a good look.

I don't agree with the provision AT ALL - I simply stated one comment was a bit disingenuous. Has there been anything in my posting history that would suggest I'd be in favor of what they're trying to do here? How about just say, "Ok you're right they're not trying to ban all birth control, but what you do think of this proposal?" instead of overly sensitive whining about my fact checking?
 
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