MissThundercat
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Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
With Trump as President, does Roe get overturned?
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The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Yes. He just needs to replace Scalia and turn over one seat.
Yes. He just needs to replace Scalia and turn over one seat.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
No. He would need to amend the Constitution or get the SCOTUS to overturn their prior ruling(s). There is no way that he has the political collateral or will to take on either of those options.
No. He would need to amend the Constitution or get the SCOTUS to overturn their prior ruling(s). There is no way that he has the political collateral or will to take on either of those options.
ericredaxe
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Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
He will likely get 2-3 SCOTUS nominations, and he said he would nominate judges he considered to be likely to overturn Roe v Wade.
Why do you think he won't follow through?
He will likely get 2-3 SCOTUS nominations, and he said he would nominate judges he considered to be likely to overturn Roe v Wade.
Why do you think he won't follow through?
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
He won't follow through on his own volition, since Roe has undoubtedly saved him from a few bastard kids. Pence will tell him what to do, and then he'll do it. So, goodbye SCOTUS.
As for Roe, we'll see.
He won't follow through on his own volition, since Roe has undoubtedly saved him from a few bastard kids. Pence will tell him what to do, and then he'll do it. So, goodbye SCOTUS.
As for Roe, we'll see.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
What the heck would make you think they would even seek this out?! Is this just another one of the feminazi scare tactics by the mainstream media to scare you into voting for the globalist?
What the heck would make you think they would even seek this out?! Is this just another one of the feminazi scare tactics by the mainstream media to scare you into voting for the globalist?
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
No.
SCOTUS only rules on cases brought before it. Before they'd have a chance to rule on an abortion case, there'd have to be a case in the first place. Since Roe v Wade is now the law of the land, what kind of case could there be that would wind up on their docket?
No.
SCOTUS only rules on cases brought before it. Before they'd have a chance to rule on an abortion case, there'd have to be a case in the first place. Since Roe v Wade is now the law of the land, what kind of case could there be that would wind up on their docket?
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Add to that, as unofan mentioned in another thread, so many challenges to the law in regards to "reasonable" restrictions/access have been heard recently. Barring any unforeseen health issues, the Chief Justice isn't going anywhere, and I'm willing to bet he'd just not accept those cases, leaving them to stand on prior SCOTUS rulings.
Add to that, as unofan mentioned in another thread, so many challenges to the law in regards to "reasonable" restrictions/access have been heard recently. Barring any unforeseen health issues, the Chief Justice isn't going anywhere, and I'm willing to bet he'd just not accept those cases, leaving them to stand on prior SCOTUS rulings.
unofan
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That's easy, the next case involving state restrictions that gets appealed to it once the conservative wing thinks it had a shot of winning. They can throw some dicta in about Roe being ripe for review in light of new legal and medical developments, and invite a state to pass a law banning abortion to work its way to the court. There's only about 20 or so that would be eager to do so. Some might even have laws on the books still, and it would just be a matter of the state restarting enforcement of them.
That won't happen until they get someone new to replace Kennedy, RBG, or Breyer, though, because as it stands, they know Kennedy will side with the liberal wing on anything going too far.
And there's no guarantees that the new justices, or even Roberts, would be up for an outright overturn. But procedurally, it's easy to do.
In other words, the left really needs to hope those three justice's health holds out (at least) four more years.
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MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Thanks. It's been a while since poli sci at NMU.
Thanks. It's been a while since poli sci at NMU.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Take Rush Limbaugh's dick out of your mouth, and maybe look at the bigger picture.
Take Rush Limbaugh's dick out of your mouth, and maybe look at the bigger picture.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
This coming from someone who can hardly see beyond his own nose when it comes to the world.
This coming from someone who can hardly see beyond his own nose when it comes to the world.
manurespreader
Still upright
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
You know flagdude, you are missing the boat here. I think fade is a lot more in tune with reality in this case than you. You really ought to get better educated on the issues and seek out a broader set of places you get your information, at least in this case.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Stop, please. The Cafe is different from almost every other forum because people don't go there.
For the record, I completely agree with your dismissal of / disgust at Flag's pathetic alt-right talking points, furiously typed out from his MRA Resentment Van with the windows blacked out, bedazzled with NRA and 3%er stickers and spray-painted "All Lives Matter!" parked down by the river.
But please don't go Full YouTube Comment. That way lies sadness.
Sincerely,
Your Cafe Nazi
Stop, please. The Cafe is different from almost every other forum because people don't go there.
For the record, I completely agree with your dismissal of / disgust at Flag's pathetic alt-right talking points, furiously typed out from his MRA Resentment Van with the windows blacked out, bedazzled with NRA and 3%er stickers and spray-painted "All Lives Matter!" parked down by the river.
But please don't go Full YouTube Comment. That way lies sadness.
Sincerely,
Your Cafe Nazi
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Precisely. But remember, I'm the one who "can't see beyond his own nose".
Flag IS a 4chan bot. They can only be fought by responding in kind.
Precisely. But remember, I'm the one who "can't see beyond his own nose".
Flag IS a 4chan bot. They can only be fought by responding in kind.
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Why put yourself through all that aggravation? There is a simpler alternative that is much better for your blood pressure.
Why put yourself through all that aggravation? There is a simpler alternative that is much better for your blood pressure.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
Anyway, it's funnier to wind him up about Draconian mind control passed through Dora the Explorer.
"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."
Anyway, it's funnier to wind him up about Draconian mind control passed through Dora the Explorer.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread
Oh I'm well educated enough about this, unless your definition of education is talking points from the Huff. Van Jones and the other whiners have made a very sweeping generalization that theo-cons will hi-jack the mandate voted by the people (say what you want when it comes to mob rule, but you blew it with Congress and the Senate, too). Yes, they did this in 2010 by hi-jacking the Taxed Enough Already party, and created a miserable failure that resulted in Obama's re-election in 2012. The same 2010 election "results" happened in 2014, so why didn't we see the same takeover that lead to a distrust in 2016? Oh right, because theo-cons were told to shut up and not push their agenda. The American people showed they're sick of their Bible thumping, especially now that we've seen the dangers of religious radicals.
Oh I'm well educated enough about this, unless your definition of education is talking points from the Huff. Van Jones and the other whiners have made a very sweeping generalization that theo-cons will hi-jack the mandate voted by the people (say what you want when it comes to mob rule, but you blew it with Congress and the Senate, too). Yes, they did this in 2010 by hi-jacking the Taxed Enough Already party, and created a miserable failure that resulted in Obama's re-election in 2012. The same 2010 election "results" happened in 2014, so why didn't we see the same takeover that lead to a distrust in 2016? Oh right, because theo-cons were told to shut up and not push their agenda. The American people showed they're sick of their Bible thumping, especially now that we've seen the dangers of religious radicals.
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