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The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

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As promised, here is a list of the 75 coaches that were nominated, along with their corresponding point values...

1. Jerry York - 293.7310011
2. Vic Heyliger - 288.3782927
3. Jack Parker - 284.0473044
4. Murray Armstrong - 272.3240523
5. Red Berenson - 213.5277576
6. John MacInnes - 193.280458
7. Ron Mason - 184.5771333
8. Ned Harkness - 181.1975752
9. Gino Gasparini - 179.0093712
10. Shawn Walsh - 166.135929
11. Jeff Jackson - 158.803662
12. Bob Johnson - 153.4185577
13. Don Lucia - 145.5386984
14. Herb Brooks - 137.8287743
15. Dean Blais - 136.8422237
16. Len Ceglarski - 130.1565314
17. George Gwozdecky - 129.4710833
18. Jeff Sauer - 128.9871011
19. Rick Comley - 121.654009
20. Jack Kelley - 105.3156646
21. Doug Woog - 104.0358694
22. Dick Umile - 95.19517474
23. Bill Cleary - 94.79739392
24. Cheddy Thompson - 89.99954933
25. Barry Thorndycraft - 88.92220357
26. Snooks Kelly - 86.89103545
27. Mike Eaves - 62.1094665
28. Dave Hakstol - 53.93056066
29. Cooney Weiland - 52.75355124
30. Mike Addesa - 52.52595234
31. Scott Sandelin - 51.82158408
32. Al Renfrew - 51.72697225
33. Frank Anzalone - 51.40443164
34. Amo Bessone - 51.28318772
35. Tom Bedecki - 51.23605035
36. Tim Whitehead - 45.17796311
37. Edward Jeremiah - 44.25765708
38. Enrico Blasi - 42.90966785
39. Mike Sertich - 41.98842708
40. John Mariucci - 39.55781073
41. George Menard - 36.39353415
42. Mark Morris - 35.3316369
43. William Harrison - 35.32121528
44. Joe Marsh - 35.03263231
45. Harry Cleverly - 33.3691288
46. Mike Schafer - 32.79640098
47. Brad Buetow - 30.57407335
48. Scotty Owens - 29.22272834
49. Charlie Holt - 29.19464845
50. Dick Bertrand - 27.28714397
51. Terry Slater - 23.90540252
52. Lou Lamoriello - 19.80298407
53. Ferny Flaman - 17.57827167
54. Wayne Wilson - 16.14494409
55. Bill O'Flaherty - 15.70342607
56. Olav Kollevoll - 14.3573001
57. Glen Sonmor - 11.120625
58. Ralph Backstrom - 10.91904899
59. Tom Eccleston - 8.829608918
60. Rand Pecknold - 8.0475
61. Jack Riley - 7.958347049
62. Bob Daniels - 6.547996926
63. Jim Fullerton - 6.509249292
64. Bruce Crowder - 6.508206286
65. Tim Taylor - 6.127634413
66. Doug Ross - 5.875568182
67. Walt Kyle - 3.304707031
68. Seth Appert - 1.461975329
69. Larry Armstrong - 1.449462366
70. Emil Iverson - 1.23490566
71. Alfred Winsor Jr. - 1.230952381
72. Joseph Stubbs - 1.059965278
73. Tony Frasca - 0.579327731
74. Jamie Russel - -0.719244449
75. Gary Wright - -2.189195438
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
As promised, here is a list of the 75 coaches that were nominated, along with their corresponding point values...

68. Seth Appert - 1.461975329
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Quick question, is Appert's score positive if you don't include this season? I'd guess that his score took a major upswing based on the Engineers' NCAA appearance this season.

Also, another kudos and "fantastic work" for what you've done. The history that you've included in each of the write-ups is really fascinating and helped me learn a lot.
 
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burgie12 said:
Quick question, is Appert's score positive if you don't include this season? I'd guess that his score took a major upswing based on the Engineers' NCAA appearance this season.

Also, another kudos and "fantastic work" for what you've done. The history that you've included in each of the write-ups is really fascinating and helped me learn a lot.
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He was just on the positive side of 0 prior to this season. I believe Appert had the highest % increase (something on the lines of 700% I believe) this season. Sandelin, obviously, had the biggest point increase. Thanks for the kind words, and I had a lot of fun doing it as well (I'm a historian by trade). I would really love to put a book together and include significantly longer writeups of each of the coaches. Unfortunately, I don't believe I could find a publisher to do such a work, so it remains a pipe dream :).
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
#1 – Jerry York
Coached at Clarkson from 1972-1979
Coached at Bowling Green from 1979-1994
Coached at Boston College from 1994-present
The Greatest Coach of All-Time in Division 1 College Hockey is Jerry York. York has been impressive nearly from his first season at the D-1 level. If he continues his current pace, and coaches for 2-3 more seasons, he will have more victories than any other coach, he already has more NCAA Tournament victories (33) than any other coach. He has coached more All-Americans (50) than any other coach. He has coached more Hobey Baker finalists (17) than any other coach. He is simply the best. He began his D-1 career at Clarkson in 1972, taking over for Len Ceglarski. In his 7 seasons there, he had 2 losing seasons, along with 1 conference title. In 1976-1977 he led Clarkson to a 26-8-0 record and an ECAC Regular Season championship. He never went to the NCAA Tournament while at Clarkson, but that would change at his next venue. In 1979, York left Clarkson for Bowling Green. He took over for Ron Mason and led the Falcons to a 27 win season, and an NCAA Tournament appearance in his third season at the helm. By 1984, York had molded the Falcons into his kind of team. Bowling Green would go 34-8-2, and advance to the Frozen Four, York’s first, by defeating Jack Parker and BU in a 2-game total goals series (they lost game 1 6-3, but won 5-1 in Overtime…gotta love total goals series). At the Frozen Four, York would face Ron Mason and Michigan State in the semis in Lake Placid. Bowling Green would defeat their conference foe 2-1 to advance to the National Championship. They would play Minnesota Duluth, and won in one of the longest games in college hockey history to that point 5-4 in quadruple overtime. It would be York’s first title, but not his last. York would lead Bowling Green to four more trips to the NCAA Tournament, but they were never able to get back to the Frozen Four. In 1994, Boston College called, and Jerry York took over the program. He struggled initially, failing to have a winning season in his first three tries. In 1998 though, York would have his first winning season with the Eagles, and would take them to the brink of a national title. Boston College would make the Frozen Four, which was being held in Boston, and would defeat Ohio State 5-2 to reach the title game against Michigan. The game would go to OT, and Michigan would walk away the victor. The following season, York would have BC back in the Frozen Four once again, but unfortunately they lost to eventual champion Maine 2-1 in OT. 2000 saw BC again at the Frozen Four, and again they would reach the title game with a 4-2 victory over St. Lawrence. They would meet up with North Dakota, but would fall 4-2 to the Sioux. In 2001, BC was again back at the Frozen Four, and they would again make it to the title game, and would again play North Dakota. This time, BC won a classic 3-2 in OT to give Boston College their first National Championship (and York and the school’s 2nd overall) since 1949. In 2002 BC missed the NCAAs, and in 2003 they lost to Cornell in the Regional Finals, but in 2004, York had the Eagles back at the Frozen Four, again in Boston. BC would fall to Maine 2-1 in the semis. In 2005, BC was a #1 seed, but fell to eventual runner-up North Dakota 6-3. In 2006 however, BC would get some revenge. The Eagles destroyed rival BU in the Regional Final, and had a rematch with North Dakota in the semis. York would lead the Eagles past the Sioux to reach the finals against Wisconsin, but lost a heartbreaker 2-1. 2007 would follow a similar tone, as BC would reach the Frozen Four, defeated North Dakota, but would fall to Rick Comley’s Michigan State squad 3-1 in the title game. 2008, it looked like it might play out the same. BC would advance to the Frozen Four, then trounced North Dakota 6-1 to reach the title game against Notre Dame. The Eagles would not be denied this time, as York’s squad defeated the Fighting Irish 4-1 for his 3rd Title. 2009 saw BC miss the NCAA Tournament, but BC came back with a vengeance in 2010. The Eagles advanced to the Frozen Four, and met up with #1 seed Miami. BC destroyed the Redhawks 7-1, and then met Wisconsin for the Title. York would lead BC past the Badgers 5-0 for his 4th National Title. This past season, BC was heavily favored to win it all, but were upset in the Regional Semifinals. In his career, York has coached 39 seasons, 26 of which were winning campaigns. He has made 18 trips to the NCAA Tournament, amassed 33 NCAA Tournament victories, and has advanced to the Frozen Four 10 times, amassing 12 victories. He has nearly 900 wins, and is on pace to eclipse Ron Mason for the most wins of all-time. He has coached 50 All-Americans, 17 Hobey Finalists and 2 Hobey Winners. He has been by far the best coach in the NCAA since 1998, reaching 9 Frozen Fours in that time frame. He has led his teams to the National Title game 8 times, tying Murray Armstrong for most appearances in a title game, and has won 4 National Championships. He is a legend, and is the Greatest Coach of All-Time.

Points: 293.73
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BC destroyed the Redhawks 7-1. ;) :)

Great job FS23. Appreciate your 'Greatest' threads.
 
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Really enjoyed it FS23. I hope the family side of things is getting worked out.
 
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ecbrevik said:
Really enjoyed it FS23. I hope the family side of things is getting worked out.
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It has, fortunately. It was a series of events, from my Grandpa getting rushed to the ER (he's had 4 heart attacks and three major heart operations over the last 25 years, so we were all quite worried), to my brother and his wife having their second baby. Throw in my wife's work nearly not approving the time off, and having to take my dog to the vet...it was a stressful few days.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
He was just on the positive side of 0 prior to this season. I believe Appert had the highest % increase (something on the lines of 700% I believe) this season. Sandelin, obviously, had the biggest point increase. Thanks for the kind words, and I had a lot of fun doing it as well (I'm a historian by trade). I would really love to put a book together and include significantly longer writeups of each of the coaches. Unfortunately, I don't believe I could find a publisher to do such a work, so it remains a pipe dream :).
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Nothing to say that you couldn't self publish a book. Just something to think about if a book was something that you were serious about. I suspect that you'd have a large group of willing and knowledgeable editors to help.
 
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Almington said:
Nothing to say that you couldn't self publish a book. Just something to think about if a book was something that you were serious about. I suspect that you'd have a large group of willing and knowledgeable editors to help.
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True. I would probably be more inclined to do a "History of College Hockey" book, and use all the information that I gathered doing both this list and the Greatest Programs list. I would probably use Acrobat and make a .pdf. If I decide to do something like this, I would of course call upon those interested in helping out to edit and fact check.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
True. I would probably be more inclined to do a "History of College Hockey" book, and use all the information that I gathered doing both this list and the Greatest Programs list. I would probably use Acrobat and make a .pdf. If I decide to do something like this, I would of course call upon those interested in helping out to edit and fact check.
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You'd have to really focus the info to have even a really large book. Knowing how much info is in the UM book, and how many other programs are quite old and have a lot of history.... wow, that's a lot of information that would have to be put into one book.

But if it's some really sharp info.. well....

I would buy it, regardless. Your hard work is very interesting to read- I think we are all blessed that your hobby is so interesting to all of us.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
True. I would probably be more inclined to do a "History of College Hockey" book, and use all the information that I gathered doing both this list and the Greatest Programs list. I would probably use Acrobat and make a .pdf. If I decide to do something like this, I would of course call upon those interested in helping out to edit and fact check.
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If you're serious about this or become serious about this, I'll throw my name in the ring as someone who would be interested in helping out in any way. As a journalist who loves and covers college hockey (I'll be with CHN next year), this would be an awesome project to be involved with.
 
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alfablue said:
You'd have to really focus the info to have even a really large book. Knowing how much info is in the UM book, and how many other programs are quite old and have a lot of history.... wow, that's a lot of information that would have to be put into one book.

But if it's some really sharp info.. well....

I would buy it, regardless. Your hard work is very interesting to read- I think we are all blessed that your hobby is so interesting to all of us.
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Thank you. I've been trying to think of a solid outline for it, which if I can come up with a good outline, I'll be inclined to at least start writing something. My goal wouldn't be to include everything from every program (as you said, that would be a book that has a couple thousand pages), but rather to provide a solid, relatively complete history of the game from its origin. I think I would probably focus on the growth of the game over time, the emergence of conferences and the NCAA Tournament. I'd try to spend more time on those that changed the game, but also provide many interesting anecdotes. Fortunately, I've done a ton of research, although more would be necessary to fill in certain times and areas.

If I did come up with the book, I really don't know if I would even charge for it...especially to those who I've met on here.

Federal League said:
If you're serious about this or become serious about this, I'll throw my name in the ring as someone who would be interested in helping out in any way. As a journalist who loves and covers college hockey (I'll be with CHN next year), this would be an awesome project to be involved with.
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I would definitely be wanting help with this, so thanks for the pre-volunteer. :) For those interested in helping with this, please feel free to shoot me an email/PM. If I decide to go forward with something, it would be hugely beneficial to have some help. Keep in mind though, I don't rush through things, so if this came about, it would probably be a year or longer project.
 
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Almington said:
Nothing to say that you couldn't self publish a book. Just something to think about if a book was something that you were serious about. I suspect that you'd have a large group of willing and knowledgeable editors to help.
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These days, you could publish a book and distribute it electronically, for Kindle and other e-readers. Then, if there was enough interest, you might be able to generate the funds to publish a hard-copy edition. But now you can provide it to readers without a five-figure investment in printing costs.
 
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dwollstadt said:
These days, you could publish a book and distribute it electronically, for Kindle and other e-readers. Then, if there was enough interest, you might be able to generate the funds to publish a hard-copy edition. But now you can provide it to readers without a five-figure investment in printing costs.
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I "heard" that one could publish an e-book for a few hundred dollars - definitely under $1,000.
 
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I just thought I would update here as well that I will be updating the list (ETA ~ late April or sometime in May). Expect York to stay #1 despite only winning the national championship this season. :p:D:D
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I just thought I would update here as well that I will be updating the list (ETA ~ late April or sometime in May). Expect York to stay #1 despite only winning the national championship this season. :p:D:D
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Just thought I would update...my semester is finally done. I start up again in June, but will be entering in data this week, with a target of early next week to post the updated list of coaches.
 
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And let the updates begin...

Active coaches outside the top 25: (last year's rank/points in parenthesis)
#27 (27) - Mike Eaves - 62.9661 (62.1095)
#28 (28) - Dave Hakstol - 57.1548 (53.9306)
#29 (31) - Scott Sandelin - 56.9389 (51.8216)
#36 (36) - Tim Whitehead - 47.0965 (45.1780)
#37 (38) - Enrico Blasi - 44.7507 (42.9097)
#45 (46) - Mike Schafer - 34.6968 (32.7964)
#48 (48) - Scotty Owens - 29.2752 (29.2227)
#51 (62) - Bob Daniels - 24.0535 (6.5480)
#55 (54) - Wayne Wilson - 16.3342 (16.1449)
#61 (60) - Rand Pecknold - 8.1614 (8.0475)
#67 (67) - Walt Kyle - 3.3728 (3.3047)
#69 (68) - Seth Appert - 1.2779 (1.4620)
#75 (75) - Gary Wright - -2.3475 (-2.1892)
 
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Great job FS23. Can't argue much with your rankings based on accomplishments.

Gotta say though, if I had to choose one coach to coach my team out of those listed, it would be Herb Brooks.

I have never seen another coach get more out of their players.
 
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