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The GQP Thread: I'm even sick of that fuck's number and, anyway, he's gone (for now)

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Yes, but 40% of 60% turnout is only 24% of the people. I have some confidence that there is a reserve of sanity in the 40% who don’t normally vote that can be called upon in a time of crisis. You don’t think 81M here voted D in 2020 out of love and devotion for Joe Biden, do you?
 
LynahFan said:
Yes, but 40% of 60% turnout is only 24% of the people. I have some confidence that there is a reserve of sanity in the 40% who don’t normally vote that can be called upon in a time of crisis. You don’t think 81M here voted D in 2020 out of love and devotion for Joe Biden, do you?
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Rebuttals: 2016. 2004.
 
Kepler said:
17 points is closer than I would like.
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Well Macron hardly excites people at the polls. That said this was her best shot to have a chance and she got trounced for being the incompetent Putin Twat that everyone knows she is.

Also remember, the Far Left leaders were not nearly as on board this time as they were last time. (I believe you posted a story about that)
 
Handyman said:
Well Macron hardly excites people at the polls. That said this was her best shot to have a chance and she got trounced for being the incompetent Putin Twat that everyone knows she is.

Also remember, the Far Left leaders were not nearly as on board this time as they were last time. (I believe you posted a story about that)
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Yes, that disappointed me. IINM the Italian Communist Party leader has been tweeting support for Putin on the theory that anything the West hates should be supported.

There are a few rain drops marring the Left to rival the tidal wave of malignant imbeciles that is the Right.
 
This analysis is on point.

Through the lens of this logic, the Ukrainians appear to be acting ‘irrationally’, while Western world is looking on ‘how long they can hold out’ and wondering ‘why they aren’t negotiating to stop the war’. If Russia were a developed democracy with functioning institutions, independent civic volition, and checks and balances imposed on those in power, the said logic would have made sense.

However, Russia has never been a democracy – in fact, all evidence points to it being an authoritative state, and it’s institutions remained punitive and corrupt, not having changed much since the soviet times. Not only it’s an authoritative country (one of many in the world), but it’s also vertically-collectivist. Societies like that are predominantly ineffective in non-violent (‘horizontal’) interaction, while dominance through pressure and coercion (‘vertical’) is the surest way to move up the hierarchy, to obtain some degree of ‘freedom’, albeit limited by one’s position in the system. Moreover, the decades-long limitation of the individuals’ decision-making autonomy have caused the inability of the Russian population to form a unified movement, let alone protest or expression of dissent, of any significance.
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What a beautiful description of the authoritarian ("vertical") mindset, as distinct from a democratic, cooperative ("horizontal") mindset.

The individualist vs collectivist dichotomy bides a distinction inside it. Right-individualism (market libertarianism), Left-individualism (social libertarianism), and Left-collectivism (socialism) are all capable of being integrated into democracy. Right-collectivism (fascism) is the outlier. It is inherently anti-democratic, being the enemy of both humanity and individual fulfillment. The fascism of Dump, Putin, Hitler, et al. is simply gangsterism. It is the use of violence to obtain the narrow ends of the rulers and their supporters against everyone else.

That's what we are fighting, here.
 
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Kepler said:
Yes, that disappointed me. IINM the Italian Communist Party leader has been tweeting support for Putin on the theory that anything the West hates should be supported.

There are a few rain drops marring the Left to rival the tidal wave of malignant imbeciles that is the Right.
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i can't remember if it was the DSA, the international council, or both, but it/they haven't been a beacon of hope either.
 
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i can't remember if it was the DSA, the international council, or both, but it/they haven't been a beacon of hope either.
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The Tankies, Stalinists, and apologists for the PRC are so dumb they should by rights be conservative. They were guided into Leftism by biographical quirk but they're still stupid, so their narrowness shows anyway.

I mean, there are radicalized Buddhist terrorists out there. Not to mention many American Christians.

You can't fix stupid.
 
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