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The GQP Thread: I'm even sick of that fuck's number and, anyway, he's gone (for now)

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Nah, breaking into the capitol was simply an example of mob mentality. Alone, none of those clowns would have done a thing. But put them in a mob and let people get fired up, the next thing you know you're sitting in the Speaker's office.

No.

It was a coordinated attack. The mob was being used as cover.
 
No.

It was a coordinated attack. The mob was being used as cover.

Well, if you're right, and Garland's DOJ can prove that, I guess we'll see all kinds of major prosecutions and substantial sentences, including of those people in the White House and Congress who participated. As I said before, I have my doubts.
 
Well, if you're right, and Garland's DOJ can prove that, I guess we'll see all kinds of major prosecutions and substantial sentences, including of those people in the White House and Congress who participated. As I said before, I have my doubts.

You think we should have some sort of investigation to find out? Or is that just a waste of time too.

Tell me, how did you feel about Islamic extremists attacking our embassy in Benghazi?
 
Well, if you're right, and Garland's DOJ can prove that, I guess we'll see all kinds of major prosecutions and substantial sentences, including of those people in the White House and Congress who participated. As I said before, I have my doubts.

After Rudy and his ilk, and now the "recounts" in AZ and GA, and all the suppression and outright de-democratization measures in TX etc, you still have your doubts that it is the intention of the GOP to end democracy?

That is partisan blindness. I hope if it were the Left I could see it. I think I could. But what this has taught me is the Right can't be trusted. Whether by design or by willfully turning away, they won't stop a rightwing coup.

I know this because you aren't stopping one right now.

FFS. We really only have one job as Americans: hold on to the Founding Principles. We aren't a race or an ethnicity or a religion. All America is is democracy. We are the nation of democracy. Everything else: wealth, capitalism, hell even equality, is second.

We have one job. And you are blowing it.
 
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You think we should have some sort of investigation to find out? Or is that just a waste of time too.

Tell me, how did you feel about Islamic extremists attacking our embassy in Benghazi?

I don't think I gave two seconds of thought to Benghazi. I'm pretty sure I didn't have a single post on the subject.
 
After Rudy and his ilk, and now the "recounts" in AZ and GA, and all the suppression and outright de-democratization measures in TX etc, you still have your doubts that it is the intention of the GOP to end democracy?

That is partisan blindness. I hope if it were the Left I could see it. I think I could. But what this has taught me is the Right can't be trusted. Whether by design or by willfully turning away, they won't stop a rightwing coup.

The flailing about of Rudy and his group were the incompetent efforts of incompetent advisors to an incompetent President to try to somehow put off the inevitable. As I posted at the time, despite these efforts I expected that in January Biden would take the oath of office, be sworn in as President, and move into the White House, and oddly enough, it seems that's exactly what happened.

The "recounts" in AZ and GA are simply extensions of that, and will have as much success.

With respect to things like the voting legislation in Texas, no I'm not a big fan. But they are a natural reaction to other things that are going on.

Right now, with respect to elections, basically the left would prefer that there be no rules, and the right wants nothing but rules. I realize that's an oversimplification, but that's sort of the point.

So yeah, when you've got people on the right who will tell constituents about drive by voting and dropping ballots off at Walmart or a variety of other true, semi-true or untrue statements, they're going to drum up support for legislation that limits voting to election day and a specific location with specific requirements for registration.
 
The left wants no rules?

umm no, we don’t want 8 hour lines and ease of voting for rurals while urbanites are told to bite it.

and we don’t want R state legislatures to be able to overturn lawful elections because their feelings were hurt. That’s absurd and you know it.
And multiple states have now enacted that

but go ahead keep gaslighting
 
When is restricting voting rights ever a natural reaction to anything, much less whatever the fuck you’re talking about?
 
The left wants no rules?

umm no, we don’t want 8 hour lines and ease of voting for rurals while urbanites are told to bite it.

and we don’t want R state legislatures to be able to overturn lawful elections because their feelings were hurt. That’s absurd and you know it.
And multiple states have now enacted that

but go ahead keep gaslighting

But there are no rules to mail-in voting! You can send in eleventy billion ballots and they have no records of names or anything! You can even write in crayon on a napkin and throw it at the building and they'll count it!
 
Hovey just wants to win.

He'll make up reasons it was justified afterwards.

He's proving my point. They can't be trusted. They have no allegiance to democracy, they just want what they want and if they can't get it with votes they'll get it with fists, or guns.
 
But there are no rules to mail-in voting! You can send in eleventy billion ballots and they have no records of names or anything! You can even write in crayon on a napkin and throw it at the building and they'll count it!
Ye olde, “if I pretend the other side is just as extreme then I won’t seem as extreme” tactic.

Hovey, you are on the side of, or at least at peace with (but I repeat myself), actual fascists. How about actually standing up for the principles you say you stand for?
 
After Rudy and his ilk, and now the "recounts" in AZ and GA, and all the suppression and outright de-democratization measures in TX etc, you still have your doubts that it is the intention of the GOP to end democracy?

That is partisan blindness. I hope if it were the Left I could see it. I think I could. But what this has taught me is the Right can't be trusted. Whether by design or by willfully turning away, they won't stop a rightwing coup.

I know this because you aren't stopping one right now.

FFS. We really only have one job as Americans: hold on to the Founding Principles. We aren't a race or an ethnicity or a religion. All America is is democracy. We are the nation of democracy. Everything else: wealth, capitalism, hell even equality, is second.

We have one job. And you are blowing it.

Hovey just wants to be the Good Little German.

"It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
 
Ye olde, “if I pretend the other side is just as extreme then I won’t seem as extreme” tactic.

Hovey, you are on the side of, or at least at peace with (but I repeat myself), actual fascists. How about actually standing up for the principles you say you stand for?

This is where Hovey will tell you that everyone else here is already standing for those principles, so he doesn't need to pile on.
 
The flailing about of Rudy and his group were the incompetent efforts of incompetent advisors to an incompetent President to try to somehow put off the inevitable. As I posted at the time, despite these efforts I expected that in January Biden would take the oath of office, be sworn in as President, and move into the White House, and oddly enough, it seems that's exactly what happened.

The "recounts" in AZ and GA are simply extensions of that, and will have as much success.

And yet, look what the effect has been on our country.

Oh wait, you don't want to acknowledge there has been an effect. Hasn't done anything at all.

Because to do so, would also acknowledge your own complicity. “All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.“

However, this assumes you're a good man. I'm not really seeing it, but Kep has hope for you.
 
Right now, with respect to elections, basically the left would prefer that there be no rules, and the right wants nothing but rules. I realize that's an oversimplification, but that's sort of the point.

Nice strawman. Awesome job with the "bothsides".

Too bad its complete horseshit. Thing is, you know its horseshit, and yet you post it anyway.
 
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