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The GQP Thread: Cause the other one is broken.

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
40 months in the slammer for a young man who pepper sprayed a LEO and broke a window on 1/6/21, which also happened to be his 18th birthday. That's after the judge gave him a break for pleading guilty and cooperating. His mom's privilege-fueled poutrage at the sentencing is deeee-licious.

He was apparently arrested for his involvement while attending Air Force basic training. So at least there's one dipsh*t who won't be joining the ranks of our military.
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I think the thing that gets me the most is that this isn't cheating by stuffing the ballot box, redistricting, or other (awful) means of influencing the vote at home.

these are things that made the entire world a worse place. Not even including the impact of shithole Reagan.
 
How else can a group whose policies benefit less than 5% of the population, at the very most, win a democratic election?
 
I almost never post here, but I have to post after seeing a frustration of "sameism" of the two parties.

On another board, there's a discussion about the SVB collapse, and even though the board is very strict about not being politics, it has ventured into that. One person correctly pointed out that the GOP has done literally nothing that they said they would, and the reply is that both parties are the same- in terms of economics.

Once again, the GOP and their supporters are not capable of looking in the mirror to see what they do. A very quick look at the deficit and their TRENDS very much illustrate how the GOP says one thing, and does the exact opposite- every President who was an R has expanded the debt and every D President has reduced it. I'm sure they will constantly point out that the max deficits came when a D was in the Oval office, totally ignoring that 2008's fall out of deregulation was a huge bail out that Bush started and Obama had to finish; and worse was 2021 when dumpy handed Biden a complete mess.

But- Clinton took the mess of Regan/Bush 12 years and turned that into a budget surplus. Obama reduced the deficit for every year he was President, and Biden has very much reduced the deficit from what the moron handed him.

The economy of all tracks well, too- Clinton's era had some amazing growth, Bush era killed companies, Obama era flourished (again), dumpy contracted (even before the pandemic), and Biden is expanding (some from the pandemic). When Clinton, Obama, and Biden spent, real Americans got to do things that paid them money. Where Regan, Bush, Bush, and moron spent- wealthy people got tax cuts. HUGE difference in the impact on the general public.

From a financial standpoint, the two parties are pretty much the exact opposite.
 
MichVandal said:
I almost never post here, but I have to post after seeing a frustration of "sameism" of the two parties.

On another board, there's a discussion about the SVB collapse, and even though the board is very strict about not being politics, it has ventured into that. One person correctly pointed out that the GOP has done literally nothing that they said they would, and the reply is that both parties are the same- in terms of economics.

Once again, the GOP and their supporters are not capable of looking in the mirror to see what they do. A very quick look at the deficit and their TRENDS very much illustrate how the GOP says one thing, and does the exact opposite- every President who was an R has expanded the debt and every D President has reduced it. I'm sure they will constantly point out that the max deficits came when a D was in the Oval office, totally ignoring that 2008's fall out of deregulation was a huge bail out that Bush started and Obama had to finish; and worse was 2021 when dumpy handed Biden a complete mess.

But- Clinton took the mess of Regan/Bush 12 years and turned that into a budget surplus. Obama reduced the deficit for every year he was President, and Biden has very much reduced the deficit from what the moron handed him.

The economy of all tracks well, too- Clinton's era had some amazing growth, Bush era killed companies, Obama era flourished (again), dumpy contracted (even before the pandemic), and Biden is expanding (some from the pandemic). When Clinton, Obama, and Biden spent, real Americans got to do things that paid them money. Where Regan, Bush, Bush, and moron spent- wealthy people got tax cuts. HUGE difference in the impact on the general public.

From a financial standpoint, the two parties are pretty much the exact opposite.
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I get extremely frustrated by the very same thing. Bill Maher has even fallen victim to it. People that cannot "see" the difference at this point are on one huge delusional drug trip. The GOP is America's Pyramid scheme. Humans fall for it because they want to believe in things that just are not true because reality is just too fucking hard.
 
Maher is a terrible example, as he never had any power of discernment.

The NYT and the Atlantic like to repeat it because they feel like they are being broad-minded and non-partisan.

And obviously the center-Right media likes it because it masks their agenda. If they can make people believe the cops and the robbers are morally equivalent, then they can steal with impunity.
 
Kepler said:
Maher is a terrible example, as he never had any power of discernment.

The NYT and the Atlantic like to repeat it because they feel like they are being broad-minded and non-partisan.

And obviously the center-Right media likes it because it masks their agenda. If they can make people believe the cops and the robbers are morally equivalent, then they can steal with impunity.
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The same media who will crucify a Democrat doing *something* but applaud an R for doing the exact same thing- or at least ignore it. Breaking the law is bad for D's but par for the course for Rs.

They also attack any D that has an actual agenda, see AOC.
 
Kepler said:
Maher is a terrible example, as he never had any power of discernment.

The NYT and the Atlantic like to repeat it because they feel like they are being broad-minded and non-partisan.

And obviously the center-Right media likes it because it masks their agenda. If they can make people believe the cops and the robbers are morally equivalent, then they can steal with impunity.
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I could go on and on with this topic and I almost did, but I will not. I will state the obvious though.

1. We have a two party system in America.
2. Only one party is actually offering solutions to any of the myriad of problems we are having in America. The other side is just bomb throwing.

Until that changes or the media actually starts calling it out we are going nowhere.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
I could go on and on with this topic and I almost did, but I will not. I will state the obvious though.

1. We have a two party system in America.
2. Only one party is actually offering solutions to any of the myriad of problems we are having in America. The other side is just bomb throwing.

Until that changes or the media actually starts calling it out we are going nowhere.
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100% correct.

It also means we on the Left who want to nudge the party farther are doing it outside the media spotlight because we know fighting in public is just doing the Right a favor. And it also means the Liberals who attack the Left are being selfish, because they know we have nowhere else to go, and they know they always get 97% of everything they want in any intra-party squabble, so they need to act responsibly and learn to work with us within party apparatus, and not just take the easy fan service win with cringe Sister Soulja attacks.

We know how close rabid white nationalist theocrats are to having the most powerful nuclear arsenal and surveillance state in human history. The GOP fully harnessing the power of the US military and intelligence infrastructure would make the NSDAP look like the Carter Center. We have to stop them.
 
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