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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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Gurtholfin said:
Not sure that's the story here...
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It's not, but I've already seen it spun that way elsewhere by people who think this means Cheney et al were telling the truth about there being WMDs in Iraq. It needs to be clear that these were already decommissioned weapons that the soldiers stumbled across.
 
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unofan said:
It's not, but I've already seen it spun that way elsewhere by people who think this means Cheney et al were telling the truth about there being WMDs in Iraq. It needs to be clear that these were already decommissioned weapons that the soldiers stumbled across.
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The lying liars sold the war on nukes - not that I'd expect the idiotic electorate to remember or know the difference...
 
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We've done more than enough to try and bring both sides to the table over the years, and whether it's Israeli overreach or Islamic fundie zealotry, neither side seems committed to playing fair with regards to any sort of deal.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
neither side seems committed to playing fair with regards to any sort of deal.
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politely disagree: the first and most important point that Israel wants is for its neighbors to stop trying to kill Israelis. Palestinians still refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist and it is still their explicitly-professed goal to drive Israel out of the Middle East entirely.

No deal will ever be possible until that objective changes.
 
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I'll give them about five minutes of life in the air before they're smoked by an F-16

ISIS could be soon taking its terror fight to the sky, after a report that former Iraqi pilots are training Islamic militants to fly captured Syrian war planes.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights group says some ex-Iraqi air force pilots are training members of ISIS to fly three warplanes—believed to be MiG-21 and MiG-23 jets-- captured from air bases in Syria.
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SteveP said:
I'll give them about five minutes of life in the air before they're smoked by an F-16
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Gurtholfin said:
Yeah, I lol'ed when I saw this.

The actual Iraqi pilots wanted nothing to do with engaging our pilots 10 years ago. What are these clowns gonna do?
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In important part of their objective, though, is to throw shat out there so they are perceived as a menace to the western world to keep western gubmints throwing shat back at the muslim world. Most of those young men have known nothing but war and anger, and more anger is like a tool to them. That's why lopping off heads on camera is such a favored practice.

Or maybe not.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
We've done more than enough to try and bring both sides to the table over the years, and whether it's Israeli overreach or Islamic fundie zealotry, neither side seems committed to playing fair with regards to any sort of deal.
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Was it at Wye River that Israel offered the Palestinians 95% and more of what they were demanding and that thieving old rug merchant Arafat walked away? Screw the "Palestinians." 50 years on and they're still in "refugee" camps? Zero sympathy.
 
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Old Pio said:
Was it at Wye River that Israel offered the Palestinians 95% and more of what they were demanding and that thieving old rug merchant Arafat walked away? Screw the "Palestinians." 50 years on and they're still in "refugee" camps? Zero sympathy.
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I was thinking it was Norway, but you're right, Israel offered more than anyone expected them to, almost everything the Palestinians wanted, yet Arafat walked awy from the deal. That was the best chance to reach a deal between the sides ever I believe. It plays strongly into the narrative that at least some Palestinians don't want a peace deal and will never accept anything Israel puts on the table.
 
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Apparently, there are rumors some interesting goings-on in Swedish territorial waters involving a Russian submarine.
 
Craig P. said:
Apparently, there are rumors some interesting goings-on in Swedish territorial waters involving a Russian submarine.
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They have a blurry photo of something in the water east of Stockholm. Russians say it's a Danish sub. Danes say their sub is tied up at Estonia.

I'd guess a Kilo class boat was just hanging around taking photos of the Swedish bikini team.
 
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