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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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The British Embassy in the United States sent out a tweet marking the anniversary of the White House being burned during the War of 1812, joking that this time they were only using sparklers.

People lacking a sense of humor responded as expected.

The Embassy has just issued an apology.
 
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Lyndsey Graham wants you to know that ISIS is now a Varsity Terrorist group and not a JV.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Lyndsey Graham wants you to know that ISIS is now a Varsity Terrorist group and not a JV.
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Do they get to wear Varsity team jackets as well? I think Lindsey might want to hold a Senate hearing on that one....
 
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5mn_Major said:
I don't mind you providing your thoughts...but I think you're stretching it on a number of points. France is doing quite a bit. Other countries don't get 'mad' when the US doesn't do anything.

Frankly I don't know why they should. They did everything in their power to stop us from creating the emerging disaster. But rather than listen, compromise or try alternatives...we called them names and invaded. We either clean it up or we don't...no blame to place here because our guilt. This is strictly our mess.
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Speaking of stretching the point. The assumption that we alone created the situation is certainly debatable but whatever.
second, maybe other countries don't get mad but there certainly is noticeable numbers of negative press when we do something they don't like. even if it might be uninformed. In other words they get mad.
And they should because it's in their interest to help stabilize the situation.
Maybe it's incorrect, but it seems that most NATO countries aren't willing to do much but complain, their budgets don't allow them to do much else because they, by spending so little, have placed the primary burden of their national defense on us.
 
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manurespreader said:
Maybe it's incorrect, but it seems that most NATO countries aren't willing to do much but complain, their budgets don't allow them to do much else because they, by spending so little, have placed the primary burden of their national defense on us.
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That's a mutual decision. America's military umbrella is also a hammer in political and economic negotiations. We aint a charity -- somebody's getting plenty back for the tax dollars we expend on ally defense (the grand old plan of socializing costs while privatizing profits).
 
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Agreed about Europe. I believe the only EU country that allocates what its supposed to for national defense is England. France under Hollande is doing more nowadays but prior to that they were terrible in this regard. Germany, the EU's largest economy, needs to stop playing kiss-*** with Putin and pony up more money for the defense of the continent especially since they're nearest to a lot of the conflict areas.

The days of the US actively looking around for conflicts to get involved in is over. Other countries need to solve their own internal problems themselves (that means you Iraq) first and foremost. We'll help where we can, but enough of the US bearing all of the burden.
 
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The whole 'Europe isn't spending enough on defense so we are stuck playing the world's policeman' is waay overdone.

On spending half the world's military budget and blaming it on Europe, the US saying 'I was wronged so I have to jump off a bridge'.

Edit: Russia is the sole place where Europe will have to stand up...their neighbors and safety is at stake.
 
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5mn_Major said:
the US saying 'I was wronged so I have to jump off a bridge'.
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What is this a reference to? (I did my Google due diligence.)

The US maintains an economic empire in various ways, and one of the most effective (and expensive) is our aggressive "defense" posture. The Brits did the same thing. It's how modern empires work. We'll know China is ready for the big leagues when they start engaging in the same "generosity."
 
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'Nuff said. :mad:

"I say to the House as I said to ministers who have joined this government, I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many months of struggle and suffering.
You ask, what is our policy? I say it is to wage war by land, sea, and air. War with all our might and with all the strength God has given us, and to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy."

Sir Winston Churchill


"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge -- and more."

John F. Kennedy


"We don't have a strategy---yet."

Barack H. Obama
 
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