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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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Bob Gray said:
You missed the point. Of course ISIS in general has gotten a lot of coverage. But their beheading of Christians hasn't, which is specifically what I'm talking about.
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How many Christians have been beheaded?

I see a few articles about a priest and a couple of other individuals.
 
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Bob Gray said:
No it hasn't. I'm not saying there is no coverage, but nowhere near the coverage of events in Gaza. We see a running tally of the Gaza death count in every headline. I have yet to see a headline with any sort of death toll from the ISIS beheadings and such.
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Edits below. You're too quick.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
How many Christians have been beheaded?

I see a few articles about a priest and a couple of other individuals.
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Here's a WaPo article about it.

It's horrible, but again, it has nothing do with Christianity, it has to do with not believing in their particular flavor of a particular flavor of Islam. If you run afoul of that, you're in trouble, and if you backslid you're dead.

We all agree these people are awful and terrible and we all wish they'd fall into a well. We all decry the loss of life, whatever invisible friend the victims had. Their faith means nothing to the tragedy here. It would be no more nor no less horrific if they were Hindus or FSMers or Scientologists. Well, maybe just a little less horrific if they were Scientologists.
 
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Kepler said:
Here's a WaPo article about it.

It's horrible, but again, it has nothing do with Christianity, it has to do with not believing in their particular flavor of a particular flavor of Islam. If you run afoul of that, you're in trouble, and if you backslid you're dead.

We all agree these people are awful and terrible and we all wish they'd fall into a well. We all decry the loss of life, whatever invisible friend the victims had. Their faith means nothing to the tragedy here. It would be no more nor no less horrific if they were Hindus or FSMers or Scientologists. Well, maybe just a little less horrific if they were Scientologists.
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Of course Bob wants to only focus on the Christians as the "War on Christianity" is one of their talking points.

I agree that anyone killed in this fashion and for this purpose (sowing fear) is a terrible tragedy and I hope these clowns are someday vaporized by a drone strike. Could care less if the victims are Christians or Muslim - they're human and no human deserves this fate (murdered to make a point).


Still don't see where the number of victims is recorded. A few killings in a lawless region is horrible, but it's not gonna be news like a downed jet or extreme collateral damage such as is going on in Gaza.
 
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And another thing, maybe... just maybe... Mossad could figure out a way to be more surgical with taking out Hamas members and assets?

They're supposed to be "all that."
 
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Bob Gray said:
Certainly there are times when Israel isn't as careful as they could be, but it's long been known that Hamas uses human shields and hides weapons in schools, etc. The international community is just largely too cowardly to call them on it.
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Hamas isn't the only one. Our military has chosen to locate two nuclear capable air force bases and hundreds of ICBMs smack dab in the middle of North Dakota, where the best and brightest live and breed.
 
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burd said:
Hamas isn't the only one. Our military has chosen to locate two nuclear capable air force bases and hundreds of ICMs smack dab in the middle of North Dakota, where the best and brightest live and breed.
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In an effort to address the "North Dakota Problem," they were hoping that radiation would leach and render the inhabitants sterile.

Unfortunately, it only caused mutations which have been passed on to subsequent generations...


"The problem with North Dakota is that it's full of North Dakotans."
 
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Gurtholfin said:
And another thing, maybe... just maybe... Mossad could figure out a way to be more surgical with taking out Hamas members and assets?

They're supposed to be "all that."
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I don't know if its increased media scrutiny or increased carelessness, but is sure does seem like we're hearing more incidents of the IDF bombing questionable targets in the last few years. I recall the same thing happening during the Lebanon invasion a few years back as well.

Look, I can't put myself in their place but I thought carpet bombing a region went out a long time ago. I'm sure Hamas is hiding in some of these places, but shielding yourself in civilian areas isn't a new phenomenon. There's got to be a better way of dealing with that.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
In an effort to address the "North Dakota Problem," they were hoping that radiation would leach and render the inhabitants sterile.

Unfortunately, it only caused mutations which have been passed on to subsequent generations...


"The problem with North Dakota is that it's full of North Dakotans."
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Longshanks, you are.
 
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Rover said:
I don't know if its increased media scrutiny or increased carelessness, but is sure does seem like we're hearing more incidents of the IDF bombing questionable targets in the last few years. I recall the same thing happening during the Lebanon invasion a few years back as well.

Look, I can't put myself in their place but I thought carpet bombing a region went out a long time ago. I'm sure Hamas is hiding in some of these places, but shielding yourself in civilian areas isn't a new phenomenon. There's got to be a better way of dealing with that.
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Gaza Strip = 1.8M residents in 139 sq miles = 13k per sq mi.
New York City = 8.3M in 469 sq miles = 17.8k per sq mi.

Imagine trying to bomb ANYTHING in NYC without taking out a few civilians...

Not that I'm giving Israel a free pass or condoning the bombings, but given that there are bombings, it doesn't surprise me in the least that there is this kind of collateral damage - it's entirely plausible to me that each and every civilian casualty was an honest mistake and nothing nefarious is going on.
 
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Kepler said:
Joe Scarborough's gonna get a visit from Mossad.
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And how many of those deaths attributed to the IDF are actually the result of Hamas incompetence and POS missiles?

During the day Wednesday, 140 rockets were fired from Gaza, indiscriminately destined for Israel. According to Israel Defense Forces, 81 hit Israel, 9 were intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defense system, and 50 fell short within the Gaza Strip. Thirty-six percent of the rockets intended for Israel fell short in Gaza.
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Rover said:
Look, I can't put myself in their place but I thought carpet bombing a region went out a long time ago. I'm sure Hamas is hiding in some of these places, but shielding yourself in civilian areas isn't a new phenomenon. There's got to be a better way of dealing with that.
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The other way to do that is urban warfare, house to house, like we did in Fallujah. That would kill a lot of Israeli soldiers. They're trading Palestinian civilian casualties for Iraqi military casualties, at a big markup. Lousy morality, but good for morale.

At the end of the day, war is industrialized murder. There is no way to make it not that, no matter what words are used. Any tactics you use to let up on innocent bystanders are probably going to put your soldiers at greater risk. The moral of the story is don't get attacked, because no matter what their form of government, during the period of that attack they are going to behave like sociopaths, because sociopathology wins battles.
 
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Kepler said:
We'll never know for sure, but a Breitbart citation of an IDF statement is I'm sure a very useful metric to go by.
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No different than HuffPo or any number of the MSM outlets citing a Hamas official.

I suppose that it all depends on which side your bread is buttered. ;)
 
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FreshFish said:
It's amazing how not a single Palestinian soldier was killed. Not one. EVERY Palestinian that died was a civilian, each and every one.
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And they've got the photoshopped "evidence" to prove it. Countless examples of image manipulation over the years that would make Goebbels blush and the anti-Israeli types, here and elsewhere, continue to lap it up.
 
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SteveP said:
No different than HuffPo or any number of the MSM outlets citing a Hamas official.

I suppose that it all depends on which side your bread is buttered. ;)
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I don't hear anybody apologizing for Hamas. I hear a lot of people apologizing for the IDF.
 
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Kepler said:
I don't hear anybody apologizing for Hamas. I hear a lot of people apologizing for the IDF.
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More of your GD moral equivalence? I hope Israel kills every single one of 'em and solves this problem once and for all.
 
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