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The Global War on Terror 5.0: Putin on the Risk

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Bob Gray said:
I assumed the poster I was responding to was taking issue with all the money the U.S. government (us or at least our tax and borrowed money) put into Iraq. There are obviously other important dimensions to the war, but regarding finances, we poured a lot of money in there and I don't think it was reasonable to expect to see that money come back to us in any form, including as oil exports or revenues.
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Other than Cheney I think everybody always knew the war would cost the US taxpayer trillions with no upside.

I was referring to the argument that the war could not be a deliberate strategy to make money because the overall effect was a net loss. This is the equivalent of saying nobody would ever break into a house to steal a stereo because at the end of the day there is no net gain to the neighborhood: the stereo is a wash.

This war was a con designed so that a few Americans could steal a ton of other Americans' stereos. War is great for this, because people will weep and wave flags and BEG for their stereos to be stolen. They'll even let their kids be maimed and murdered for the privilege. And the person who points out it's a con? He's the traitor.
 
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Kepler said:
Other than Cheney I think everybody always knew the war would cost the US taxpayer trillions with no upside.

I was referring to the argument that the war could not be a deliberate strategy to make money because the overall effect was a net loss. This is the equivalent of saying nobody would ever break into a house to steal a stereo because at the end of the day there is no net gain to the neighborhood: the stereo is a wash.

This war was a con designed so that a few Americans could steal a ton of other Americans' stereos. War is great for this, because people will weep and wave flags and BEG for their stereos to be stolen. They'll even let their kids be maimed and murdered for the privilege. And the person who points out it's a con? He's the traitor.
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There have always been war profiteers of various sorts. An unseemly business, but one that can be quite lucrative if you manipulate things to your advantage.
 
Kepler said:
I know. The one time we need them to be obstructionist and they'll roll over CUZ WAR YEEHAW GIT ER DUN 'HERP!
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Where is Gen. Pershing when you need him??
http://www.kvoa.com/news/mexican-military-chopper-crosses-the-border-shoots-at-agents/
 
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Today marks the 100th anniversary of the assassination that started the first World War. History channel is highlighting the occasion by showing a marathon of Swamp People.

The BBC is posting coverage on its website as events would have unfolded. It drives home the realization that if the web had existed a century ago the entire war would have been averted.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-27978407
 
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Priceless said:
Today marks the 100th anniversary of the assassination that started the first World War. History channel is highlighting the occasion by showing a marathon of Swamp People.

The BBC is posting coverage on its website as events would have unfolded. It drives home the realization that if the web had existed a century ago the entire war would have been averted.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-27978407
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Reading Barbara Tuchman's The Guns of August. Or to quote Roberto De Vicenzo "Oh, what I stupid I am!"

BTW, the BBC Proms is doing a special program on August 4 (4:15 PM ET - BBC 3) with a commemoration when Britain declared war at 11 PM GMT.
 
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Priceless said:
Today marks the 100th anniversary of the assassination that started the first World War. History channel is highlighting the occasion by showing a marathon of Swamp People.

The BBC is posting coverage on its website as events would have unfolded. It drives home the realization that if the web had existed a century ago the entire war would have been averted.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-27978407
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I think BBC TV did something for the 50th anniversary of WWII where they did mock newscasts. They also did the time around D-Day and VE and VJ Days as well. They're on Youtube I think.
 
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This Israel-Palestine thing seems to be ramping up every day. Discuss.
 
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Yup, that one is blowing up and I don't think a lot of people even notice. Israel is taking this even more seriously given Hamas' apparently unexpected ability to send missiles to places not previously in reach from the Gaza Strip, like Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, and Haiffa. It'll really get serious if/when they go into Gaza on the ground. That's something Israel does not do lightly after their last experience going into Lebanon, but they may feel they have no choice. To me the biggest difference is this happens at a time when significant other parts of the Middle East are in various stages of meltdown, including Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Libya, etc. The stable parts of that region are harder and harder to find.
 
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