Yeah, but at least our alumni don't have to buy excess tickets to all the football just so they can report an average attendance of 15,001 to the NCAA every year just to be a punching bag for the Big Ten football programs.
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The end of leagues as we know?
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Yeah, but at least our alumni don't have to buy excess tickets to all the football just so they can report an average attendance of 15,001 to the NCAA every year just to be a punching bag for the Big Ten football programs.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
Not to mention 8 national championships. Gone. To put that in perspective, UND, DU and the B1G mistake just killed what would be the equivalent of Kansas, Connecticut, Ohio State and Georgetown in college basketball.
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
I hope the AD's from the remaining schools, Atlantic, Hockey East and the ECAC get together and refuse to schedule non conf games against the Big 10 and "Super League" schools.
I hope the AD's from the remaining schools, Atlantic, Hockey East and the ECAC get together and refuse to schedule non conf games against the Big 10 and "Super League" schools.
beaverhockeyfan
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Re: The end of leagues as we know?
Okay, so this is supposed to open the door for expansion. Where will teams go?
Big Ten: In order to get in that league, you have to be a Big Ten Member. So, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern and Nebraska, here is your invite.
The Super League: The whole reasoning coming out of these schools is that they want to associate with like schools. So, you will need to have an arena, money and probably full D-I status to make it into this league.
The Leftovers: This league (or leagues) would probably take anyone that would come into the College Hockey Landscape. But, just as we saw with the CHA, very few, if any, schools wanted to start up programs and be affiliated with those schools and travel. Most of these schools lie around the Great Lakes, so if a start up wants to cut travel, it will have to be in the same geographical area. Right now, you are already looking at a 14-16 hour bus trip from the Minnesota Schools to Ferris State or Bowling Green. Alabama-Huntsville is looking at the same type of bus trip to Ferris, and even more to the UP or Minnesota schools
Okay, so this is supposed to open the door for expansion. Where will teams go?
Big Ten: In order to get in that league, you have to be a Big Ten Member. So, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern and Nebraska, here is your invite.
The Super League: The whole reasoning coming out of these schools is that they want to associate with like schools. So, you will need to have an arena, money and probably full D-I status to make it into this league.
The Leftovers: This league (or leagues) would probably take anyone that would come into the College Hockey Landscape. But, just as we saw with the CHA, very few, if any, schools wanted to start up programs and be affiliated with those schools and travel. Most of these schools lie around the Great Lakes, so if a start up wants to cut travel, it will have to be in the same geographical area. Right now, you are already looking at a 14-16 hour bus trip from the Minnesota Schools to Ferris State or Bowling Green. Alabama-Huntsville is looking at the same type of bus trip to Ferris, and even more to the UP or Minnesota schools
cross cheque
Make the playoffs, not war.
Very understandable, how much do you want for the UND series tix?
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
No one gives a **** about that part of things...you can all go **** yourselves for thinking College Hockey will ever be more than niche sport and ****ing on all of your sister colleges in Minnesota and Michigan.
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
The new commish for this league should just dress like Hitler, since its pretty much being run by a Hitler supporter.
The new commish for this league should just dress like Hitler, since its pretty much being run by a Hitler supporter.
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
They will sit empty...and i i"m calling other fans to do the same.
They will sit empty...and i i"m calling other fans to do the same.
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Great shot at what?
Neither area has much in local media to cover it and unlike UND, they are close enough to the cities that people can do other things.
Both schools are also beholden to the state in terms of budget, which gets smaller nearly every year.
SCSU is ready to start renovating their arena and can't because the Minnesota government is shut down.
You don't like St. Cloud because of the nickname issue, so it's not like you are unbiased here.
That, and I really don't see what the benefit to UND would be in this super league. Sure, they might get the Irish, but they would also be getting a lot of long *** road trips as well. And most of them in the super league would be pushing it for a bus trip. If they keep the WCHA together with the Minnesota nucleus of Bemidji, Mankato, St. Cloud, and Duluth, then they've got a league with a lot of easy bus trips for them to make. Plus, with all of that talk of the Ralph hosting a conference tournament, they would get better attendance with schools closer to them around. Heck, short of the Irish, I would say that the sioux are holding the best cards at the table here, and Denver doesnt have diddly.
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
Weiner, please stop putting words in my mouth.
Weiner, please stop putting words in my mouth.
CC BlackBears
Marty Eats Babies
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
I'm very sad about the sheer number of teams that this move is going to leave out in the cold. I'm of the opinion that the WCHA could have and would have survived easily without the B10 teams, which makes this even harder to swallow.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited that CC will be playing in such a strong conference, but it's hard to be happy about this development when you consider that even in the best case scenario, this move will almost certainly cost some schools their teams.
As someone who grew up as a Maine fan in the 90's when the college hockey landscape was so different, it's especially sad to think about what will happen to teams like Lake Superior State and Michigan Tech, to name a few, that have storied histories and have been perennial contenders in the past. I hope that whatever happens with the remaining teams from the CCHA and WCHA, they'll be able to continue recruiting, strengthen their teams, and compete with the new conferences in the coming years, because the thought of this many teams being thrown to the wolves while the top teams form their elite clubs does not sit right with me at all.
I'm very sad about the sheer number of teams that this move is going to leave out in the cold. I'm of the opinion that the WCHA could have and would have survived easily without the B10 teams, which makes this even harder to swallow.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited that CC will be playing in such a strong conference, but it's hard to be happy about this development when you consider that even in the best case scenario, this move will almost certainly cost some schools their teams.
As someone who grew up as a Maine fan in the 90's when the college hockey landscape was so different, it's especially sad to think about what will happen to teams like Lake Superior State and Michigan Tech, to name a few, that have storied histories and have been perennial contenders in the past. I hope that whatever happens with the remaining teams from the CCHA and WCHA, they'll be able to continue recruiting, strengthen their teams, and compete with the new conferences in the coming years, because the thought of this many teams being thrown to the wolves while the top teams form their elite clubs does not sit right with me at all.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
We're able to scrounge up enough nickels to pay our soon to be NHL assistant coach $275,000 per year despite being in Michigan. You've been operating on the same travel budget for over a decade. You don't exactly have a lot of potential right now.
Edit: We're not in anyway, yet.
We're able to scrounge up enough nickels to pay our soon to be NHL assistant coach $275,000 per year despite being in Michigan. You've been operating on the same travel budget for over a decade. You don't exactly have a lot of potential right now.
Edit: We're not in anyway, yet.
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
It certainly does appear that the Irish are still in play, but I'd guess Swarbrick still hasn't come down on which direction he wants to go. The only way I can see a hold-up with ND in but not approved is if there's something involved that requires affirmation by the board of trustees.
I don't know that I'd still put it this way. Yes, ND will still determine the exact makeup of the New Western Hockey Association, but the NWHA is going forward regardless of which way the Irish decide they want to go, and that also presumably means there's a firm deadline for ND to decide whether or not they're going west (theoretically, they could decide thereafter whether to go to Hockey East or whatever ends up left in the midwest, but I think Hockey East would be the only reasonable alternative).
cross cheque
Make the playoffs, not war.
Yeah yeah flying hippos, unicorns, and pots of gold. UND is currently accepting fan applications from LSSU, BGSU, and NMU.
FadeToBlack&Gold
8647
Re: The end of leagues as we know?
You ask that question as if this new league is going to give a rat's arse about what happens to the small programs.
You ask that question as if this new league is going to give a rat's arse about what happens to the small programs.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: The end of leagues as we know?
If you look at recent happenings, Minnesota will be just hoping for home ice in the first round, battling for that with OSU and MSU.
Michigan and Wisconsin will trade top seeds for as far into the future as I can see.
If you look at recent happenings, Minnesota will be just hoping for home ice in the first round, battling for that with OSU and MSU.
Michigan and Wisconsin will trade top seeds for as far into the future as I can see.
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