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The Dead Thread: Yep. Still Dead.

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RENCEB said:
Hadn't seen this! The 1st "big" concert that I ever went to, back in the old Boston Garden. I think I have at least 4 or 5 ELP albums (big, round vinyl disks that you played on a turntable, .....never mind) stored in my attic.
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Me too. Big black round shiny things with a hole in the middle and very cool cardboard covers with groovy pictures.
 
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SteveP said:
My hometown will never be the same. RIP Rob. :(
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Had you heard of the neighborhood he was from before this all hit the news? It sounds like the Ford family basically runs that part of town like a crime family.
 
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Kepler said:
Had you heard of the neighborhood he was from before this all hit the news? It sounds like the Ford family basically runs that part of town like a crime family.
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And They'll do it with a pitchfork in one had and a bottle of hot maple syrup in the other! (Because that's how I always think of Canadians who're attempting to be threatening.)
 
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Kepler said:
Had you heard of the neighborhood he was from before this all hit the news? It sounds like the Ford family basically runs that part of town like a crime family.
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I patrolled that area for several years -- an upscale western suburb. As for running it like a crime family, all he did as a councillor and later as mayor did was look after his constituents, which PO'ed the lefties on council.

Yeah, he obviously had demons that eventually got the best of him, but I'd take a whole city council of Rob Fords than the idiots on the left that have been running Toronto into the ground since I was a kid. :mad:

Ford, first as a councillor, and later as mayor, would assemble the necessary staff to fix the problem — which often drove the staff crazy — and get it done.

It all sounds so simple, but these are the things that matter to ordinary people in their daily lives.

And because it mattered to them, it mattered to Ford, who wanted to matter to the people who elected him.

It was from their ranks that Ford’s mayoral campaign was able to muster a 3,000-strong volunteer army, when no one from Toronto’s Conservative establishment would step up to help.

Governing Toronto wasn’t easy – because Rob didn’t want it to be.

He wanted to poke his finger in the eye of the establishment, including many of his fellow councillors, whom Ford viewed as derelict in their duties and complacent in their jobs.

He was determined to hold staff and politicians accountable.

The media, and many politicians, made fun of Ford for answering his own phone – because apparently politicians don’t do that.

He was berated for never spending his taxpayer allocated office allowance.

He was mocked for taking calls from – and helping – the constituents of his fellow councillors.

Ford didn’t care. Whenever his colleagues would drop the ball on what Ford considered to be the most important part of their job — providing services to taxpayers — he picked it up and ran with it down the field.

That’s why so many people — “the Ford nation” — were so loyal to him.
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SteveP said:
I patrolled that area for several years -- an upscale western suburb. As for running it like a crime family, all he did as a councillor and later as mayor did was look after his constituents, which PO'ed the lefties on council.

Yeah, he obviously had demons that eventually got the best of him, but I'd take a whole city council of Rob Fords than the idiots on the left that have been running Toronto into the ground since I was a kid. :mad:
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The essence of old time machine politics - fix the streetlights, sidewalks and the potholes; keep the neighborhood clean and safe; the schools in good order and you will have a very loyal voter base.
 
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joecct said:
The essence of old time machine politics - fix the streetlights, sidewalks and the potholes; keep the neighborhood clean and safe; the schools in good order and you will have a very loyal voter base.
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Hezbollah, too. :p

Ford was a meathead, but the constituent service model is exactly how you are supposed to win votes for local yokel seats, so fair f-cks to him. He seems to have just ridden suburban resentment of urban areas to the mayoralty, and he wouldn't be the first. Doesn't work above the level of local precinct poobah, because at a certain point you get disparate constituents and you have to either compromise or pick winners and losers. Ford did the latter, with a vengeance, so ef him.
 
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Kepler said:
Hezbollah, too. :p

Ford was a meathead, but the constituent service model is exactly how you are supposed to win votes for local yokel seats, so fair f-cks to him. He seems to have just ridden suburban resentment of urban areas to the mayoralty, and he wouldn't be the first. Doesn't work above the level of local precinct poobah, because at a certain point you get disparate constituents and you have to either compromise or pick winners and losers. Ford did the latter, with a vengeance, so ef him.
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Not to mention he was an alcoholic junkie.
 
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