The College Hockey History Book Project Thread

[mookie1995]

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if we are picking "why"'s instead of a timeline....

1) herb coaching d2 scsu in 86-87. i'd like to read about the whole season. the why come back. the ncaa tournament run. then he leaves.
2) maine under shawn walsh. the building of the program. the paul kariya season. the title. the cheating. the forfeits. the return. the next title. the illness, and finally the death. (this should be a book itself. i'd buy two!!)
3) bu in the mid-late 70s. all four mike eruzione teams making the tournament and winning nothing (73-77). the fight game vs the gophs in 76. then he leaves and oc leads the terriers to a 27-1-0 record into the ecac semis....WHEN THEY LOSE!! back then that meant they would not be invited to the national tournament. however after bc beats pc in the final the ncaa decided to invite bu anyway and have a play in game with pc (imagine this happening today! ok, you couldn't because it would never, ever happen). bu wins that and goes on to win jack's first national title. (this could probably be broken into two books too)

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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if we are picking "why"'s instead of a timeline....

1) herb coaching d2 scsu in 86-87. i'd like to read about the whole season. the why come back. the ncaa tournament run. then he leaves.
2) maine under shawn walsh. the building of the program. the paul kariya season. the title. the cheating. the forfeits. the return. the next title. the illness, and finally the death. (this should be a book itself. i'd buy two!!)
3) bu in the mid-late 70s. all four mike eruzione teams making the tournament and winning nothing (73-77). the fight game vs the gophs in 76. then he leaves and oc leads the terriers to a 27-1-0 record into the ecac semis....WHEN THEY LOSE!! back then that meant they would not be invited to the national tournament. however after bc beats pc in the final the ncaa decided to invite bu anyway and have a play in game with pc (imagine this happening today! ok, you couldn't because it would never, ever happen). bu wins that and goes on to win jack's first national title. (this could probably be broken into two books too)

It's ultimately going to be a timeline, but pretty much all of this will most likely be covered...I'm not sure if it will be as in depth (two-three books) as you would like it to be though.

I've come up with a cover, that I will post here in a bit. It's something I worked on this past weekend and I thought I would see what everyone thinks of it, and what changes should be made.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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So here is what I came up with...please post any and all comments or suggestions. The Font for the title was just something I came up with real quick, and it probably won't be the font that I wind up using...

 

[Federal League]

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So here is what I came up with...please post any and all comments or suggestions. The Font for the title was just something I came up with real quick, and it probably won't be the font that I wind up using...

Not sure where all the photos come from, but I'm guessing you'll have to get some sort of clearance from whoever owns them (probably the school in most cases).

As for the design itself, I think it gets a little too crowded at the bottom. The top half looks better with everything more spaced out. I'd probably try and split up the colors, too. For example, the three in the top right are all red and white, and there are more black and white photos on the left side than the right side. It doesn't look bad, though -- I'm just really nitpicky when it comes to this sort of stuff.

 

[joecct]

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Despite what many seem to believe, college hockey began around 1200 BC, when the Ithacans paid a visit to Troy. This painting, done around 1760, shows a contemporary rendering of what happened:

The foundations of the modern game were set in July/August, 1945 at the Potsdam Conference. At the conference, the division between the East Regions and West Regions was agreed to as well as the format of the first college hockey national championship tournament that was scheduled for Berlin in 1947, but ice issues resulted in the tournament being postponed 1 year to 1948 and the venue was shifted to Colorado Springs.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Do yourself a favor and find a way to talk to George Fabian in Madison.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Not sure where all the photos come from, but I'm guessing you'll have to get some sort of clearance from whoever owns them (probably the school in most cases).

As for the design itself, I think it gets a little too crowded at the bottom. The top half looks better with everything more spaced out. I'd probably try and split up the colors, too. For example, the three in the top right are all red and white, and there are more black and white photos on the left side than the right side. It doesn't look bad, though -- I'm just really nitpicky when it comes to this sort of stuff.

There would definitely have to be clearance, and I would make sure and get that prior to anything happening. I believe it would be a combo of schools and photographers to get the clearance. Also, what photos i could get clearance on would determine which photos were used.

There are more smaller pictures towards the bottom, so I think that is why it looks more crowded. That could always be fixed, and I would probably use more larger photos. As for the colors, I tried to have a solid mix of black/white with color photos, I wasn't paying too much attention to location/having too much red in one section. That can all be easily fixed though. Thank you for the critique.

What about the general layout and idea of photos from all eras and all teams? Are there too many photos? Should I use fewer, but larger photos? More photos from particular eras? I picked a lot of team photos. What about more photos of the old rinks?

I'll probably work on another version of the cover here this weekend, and it will be a work in progress. Any comments are greatly appreciated.

 

[pgv]

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then he leaves and oc leads the terriers to a 27-1-0 record into the ecac semis....WHEN THEY LOSE!! back then that meant they would not be invited to the national tournament. however after bc beats pc in the final the ncaa decided to invite bu anyway and have a play in game with pc (imagine this happening today! ok, you couldn't because it would never, ever happen). bu wins that and goes on to win jack's first national title. (this could probably be broken into two books too)

BU should have lost to UNH in the quarters before playing PC....many moons ago I actually wrote a paper about that game for a college class...one of the most emotional/exciting contests I ever saw, despite the outcome...really embodied the nature of that Wildcat squad...anyone who doubts that BU was UNH's biggest rival in the 70's must not have taken in that clash

 

[alfablue]

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So here is what I came up with...please post any and all comments or suggestions. The Font for the title was just something I came up with real quick, and it probably won't be the font that I wind up using...

After a day of thinking about it, I think you are trying to represent too much. Unless the real cover is quite large, I kind of dount many will look through each picture and figure out what they mean.

What I would suggest is if you can find a trophy that was awarded a LONG time ago- and I think any conference trophy would do, and mirror that with an 2011 NCAA trophy (or whatever year this comes out)- that would represent that there has been a lot of change in the sport. Perhaps split the two trophies with an old and new stick as well as a puck. Simple, elegant, tells a story, etc.

 

[Patman]

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I hate to say this, but if the focus is on the book cover then I'm going to wager that there will be no book.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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I hate to say this, but if the focus is on the book cover then I'm going to wager that there will be no book.

How much would you like to wager?

 

[badgerhawk]

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So here is what I came up with...please post any and all comments or suggestions. The Font for the title was just something I came up with real quick, and it probably won't be the font that I wind up using...

Seems a bit busy too me, (although I do like the top right photo) How about keeping it simple, something along the lines of a picture of the Broadmoor Arena (host of the first ten championships) with a ghost image of Hobey Baker or the NCAA Championship trophy. Something along those lines anyway.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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I've come up with a couple more options for a cover. I'll post them here in awhile, but here was an interesting nugget that I found today while doing some research. The RPI Holiday tournament began in 1951. Ned Harkness was the coach at RPI at that time, but did not coach the team for the initial tournament (won by Brown). He was hurt, and was replaced by his father William, who came out of retirement. William Harkness had been a hockey (and lacrosse) coach at Union, something his son would do 25+ years later.

 

[Dmann]

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This may not be right for your book, maybe just another "Greatest ever" type list, but have you ever thought about putting together the "greatest team of all time"? Statistically, the top 4 offensive lines, the top 3 defensive pairings and finally, the top 2 or 3 goalies? If a team like this were possible, could they beat a good NHL team? Just a thought. When the greatest coach and teams threads faded, there was little to read on this forum . My Denver brethren have been very quiet about hockey lately, sigh....

 

[LynahFan]

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This may not be right for your book, maybe just another "Greatest ever" type list, but have you ever thought about putting together the "greatest team of all time"? Statistically, the top 4 offensive lines, the top 3 defensive pairings and finally, the top 2 or 3 goalies? If a team like this were possible, could they beat a good NHL team? Just a thought. When the greatest coach and teams threads faded, there was little to read on this forum . My Denver brethren have been very quiet about hockey lately, sigh....

What caveats and provisos are you putting on the college All-Stars vs. the good NHL team? Are you talking about a good 2011 NHL team? And are you talking about the college players having the skills (and physical development) that they had while they were in college, or at the peaks of their careers when they were in the NHL? Considering that most of the "greatest" college players prior to the 1980s couldn't even crack NHL rosters in their own day, I can't imagine what chance they would have against an NHL team from 2011.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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This may not be right for your book, maybe just another "Greatest ever" type list, but have you ever thought about putting together the "greatest team of all time"? Statistically, the top 4 offensive lines, the top 3 defensive pairings and finally, the top 2 or 3 goalies? If a team like this were possible, could they beat a good NHL team? Just a thought. When the greatest coach and teams threads faded, there was little to read on this forum . My Denver brethren have been very quiet about hockey lately, sigh....

I have thought about doing something like this (not sure about for the book though). I've also thought about doing some sort of "Greatest Player to ever wear #___" type thread. If I did something like that, I would probably have a discussion for each number, and then a poll of some sort where people could vote.

For the book, I've been debating about having a "Greats of the decade" which could include coaches and players from that particular decade. I've been toying around with a year by year approach, which I would probably discuss players from that particular year and perhaps great coaching performances and the like. At this point, I'm doing a lot more research to try and narrow the focus of what I do with the book. I'm pretty certain that I will come up with one though, it will just be awhile.

I'm sure your Denver brethren will be up and ready next year. The Pioneers will be one of the favorites to win it all.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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As promised, here are a couple more possibilities for a cover...

 

[joecct]

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PU!

Seriously, you're tying yourself to one program. The first cover was better, IMO.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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PU!

Seriously, you're tying yourself to one program. The first cover was better, IMO.

At this point, these are all just prototypes based on what people have suggested. I'm also working on one that is a bit similar to the first, but is mostly the old barns of college hockey. It's going to be awhile before the book comes out as the research will probably take me another 6 months, and then close to another 6 to write the thing (if not longer). My goal, as of now, is to have something ready to be edited prior to the 2012-2013 season, with a goal of having a completed product prior to 2013-2014...right as the B1G starts.

 

[Dmann]

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What caveats and provisos are you putting on the college All-Stars vs. the good NHL team? Are you talking about a good 2011 NHL team? And are you talking about the college players having the skills (and physical development) that they had while they were in college, or at the peaks of their careers when they were in the NHL? Considering that most of the "greatest" college players prior to the 1980s couldn't even crack NHL rosters in their own day, I can't imagine what chance they would have against an NHL team from 2011.

My post should have been divided into two parts: the idea of a "greatest team" and the question of whether or not an all star college team could beat an average NHL team. You're right about the pre 80s players, but just for fun, imagine this year's all star line ups from INCH or any of our college hockey websites that put out these lists. Put them on the ice with say, the Rangers for example. Could this all-star team win?