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The College Hockey Championship Belt Part IV

Friday update
Code: 
                   [U]Current Holder[/U]         [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt           Cornell                2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              NCAA Tourney
The Belt Alt SO    Mass Lowell            Massachusetts 03/20/2021
AHC Belt           Canisius               American International 03/20/2021
B1G Belt           Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
HEA Belt           Mass Lowell            Massachusetts 03/20/2021
NCHC Belt          North Dakota           NCAA Tourney at earliest
WCHA Belt          Northern Michigan      Lake Superior State 03/20/2021
Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
New England Belt   Mass Lowell            Massachusetts 03/20/2021
Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             NCAA Tourney at earliest
Massachusetts Belt Mass Lowell            Massachusetts 03/20/2021
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
D II Play up Belt  Northern Michigan      Lake Superior State 03/20/2021
D II P u Alt SO    American International NCAA Tourney at earliest
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it. Also the winner of the ECAC tourney will get an alternate ECAC Belt.
 
Saturday update
Code: 
                   [U]Current Holder[/U]         [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt           Cornell                2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              NCAA Tourney
The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney
AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
B1G Belt           Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           NCAA Tourney at earliest
HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
NCHC Belt          North Dakota           NCAA Tourney at earliest
WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    NCAA Tourney at earliest
Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             NCAA Tourney at earliest
Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    NCAA Tourney at earliest
D II P u Alt SO    American International NCAA Tourney at earliest
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
 
added known next games
Code: 
                   [U]Current Holder[/U]         [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt           Cornell                2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              Nebraska Omaha 03/27/2021
The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          Lake Superior 03/26/2021
AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
B1G Belt           Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           2021-22
HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
NCHC Belt          North Dakota           NCAA Tourney at earliest
WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    NCAA Tourney at earliest
Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             2021-22
Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    NCAA Tourney at earliest
D II P u Alt SO    American International NCAA Tourney at earliest
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
 
Friday update
Code: 
                   [U]Current Holder[/U]         [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt           Cornell                2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              Nebraska Omaha 03/27/2021
The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          Bemidji State 03/27/2021
AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
B1G Belt           Minnesota              2021-22
ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           2021-22
HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
NCHC Belt          North Dakota           Minnesota Duluth 03/27/2021
WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    2021-22
Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             2021-22
Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    2021-22
D II P u Alt SO    American International 2021-22
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Friday update
Code: 
 [U]Current Holder[/U] [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt Cornell 2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3 Minnesota Nebraska Omaha 03/27/2021
The Belt Alt SO Massachusetts Bemidji State 03/27/2021
AHC Belt American International 2021-22
B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22
ECAC Belt Cornell 2021-22
ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22
HEA Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
NCHC Belt North Dakota NCAA Tourney at earliest
WCHA Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22
Ivy Belt Cornell 2021-22
New England Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22
Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22
Minnesota Belt Minnesota NCAA Tourney at earliest
New York Belt Cornell 2021-22
D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22
D II P u Alt SO American International 2021-22
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
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NCHC Belt on the line this afternoon, as North Dakota takes on Minnesota Duluth.

Also, and I apologize if this has been asked before, but what is the most number of belts played for in any one particular game? We could have a 6-belt melee in the National Title game if its Boston College v. Massachusetts, with the following on the line:

The Belt Alternate (newly created for the NCAA Tournament Champion)
The Belt Alt 3x3 (obviously would ultimately be merged) - would be in BC's possession heading into title game
The Belt Alt SO (also ultimately merged) - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
HEA Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
Massachusetts Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
New England Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game

Hopefully it doesn't come to this, but I was curious. ; )

Further, what is the criterion for tracking a state belt? At least x number of teams? Someone cares enough to have done the research to track it down?
 
Proud2baLaker said:
Will the WCHA belt simply become the CCHA belt? I haven't followed this thread enough to see if this was discussed.
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Good question. My thoughts would be to convert it to a Former WCHA Belt, and allow all the former WCHA members compete for it (with LSSU starting off with the belt), and then dust off the old CCHA belt and award it to whoever wins the first game played between CCHA teams next season.
 
Proud2baLaker said:
Will the WCHA belt simply become the CCHA belt? I haven't followed this thread enough to see if this was discussed.
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I asked if anyone had any opinion on that, and I don't think that I got any. That makes sense to me, but I still look for opinions.

There also is an old CCHA which since the beginning of last season has gone this way.
10/18/2019 Bowling Green
11/23/2019 Lake Superior State
12/13/2019 Bowling Green
12/14/2019 Lake Superior State
01/10/2020 Alaska
01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT and gets an Alternate Belt
01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
02/07/2020 Minnesota State
03/19/2021 Northern Michigan (Belts unified)
03/20/2021 Lake Superior State

I just updated this from the end of last year. Corrections are much appreciated. I would like to unify this with the CCHA whenever it happens. Comments?

The alternate mentioned above is
01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
02/21/2021 Bowling Green
03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
03/19/2021 Belts Unified

I regard this as the old CCHA
Alaska (Fairbanks)
Bowling Green
Ferris
Lake State
Miami
Michigan
Michigan State
Northern Michigan
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Western Michigan
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Good question. My thoughts would be to convert it to a Former WCHA Belt, and allow all the former WCHA members compete for it (with LSSU starting off with the belt), and then dust off the old CCHA belt and award it to whoever wins the first game played between CCHA teams next season.
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What do you mean by former WCHA. Do you mean the current members or those before the NCHC was founded? If its current, which means just adding the three UA teams and not counting St. Thomas, IMO it isn't really worth the trouble. If you want to add ND, Denver et al., then one would have to go back to find out where it is now.
 
Ralph Baer said:
What do you mean by former WCHA. Do you mean the current members or those before the NCHC was founded? If its current, which means just adding the three UA teams and not counting St. Thomas, IMO it isn't really worth the trouble. If you want to add ND, Denver et al., then one would have to go back to find out where it is now.
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Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.
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Before formation of the B1G, or before formation of the original CCHA? Could get complicated.
 
Ralph Baer said:
I asked if anyone had any opinion on that, and I don't think that I got any. That makes sense to me, but I still look for opinions.

There also is an old CCHA which since the beginning of last season has gone this way.
10/18/2019 Bowling Green
11/23/2019 Lake Superior State
12/13/2019 Bowling Green
12/14/2019 Lake Superior State
01/10/2020 Alaska
01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT and gets an Alternate Belt
01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
02/07/2020 Minnesota State
03/19/2021 Northern Michigan (Belts unified)
03/20/2021 Lake Superior State

I just updated this from the end of last year. Corrections are much appreciated. I would like to unify this with the CCHA whenever it happens. Comments?

The alternate mentioned above is
01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
02/21/2021 Bowling Green
03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
03/19/2021 Belts Unified

I regard this as the old CCHA
Alaska (Fairbanks)
Bowling Green
Ferris
Lake State
Miami
Michigan
Michigan State
Northern Michigan
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Western Michigan
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Minnesota State?
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.
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Well, lets see if there are any opinions about that. If i understand that correctly, it would be all current members of the WCHA, B1G, and NCHC, except PSU, OSU, Miami, and WMU. Correct? (My memory on this isn't great.)
 
Ralph Baer said:
Well, lets see if there are any opinions about that. If i understand that correctly, it would be all current members of the WCHA, B1G, and NCHC, except PSU, OSU, Miami, and WMU. Correct? (My memory on this isn't great.)
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For the sake of clarity, here would be the eligible teams (any program that ever played in the Men's WCHA):
Alabama Huntsville
Alaska
Alaska Anchorage
Bemidji State
Bowling Green
Colorado College
Denver
Ferris State
Lake Superior State
Michigan
Michigan State
Michigan Tech
Minnesota
Minnesota Duluth
Minnesota State Mankato
Nebraska Omaha
North Dakota
Northern Michigan
Notre Dame
St. Cloud State
Wisconsin
 
Ralph Baer said:
I will remove Mankato from that in a few hours. If anyone else wants to do it, it's fine with me.
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It actually seems simpler, assuming I made no other errors.

01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
02/21/2020 Lake Superior State (Belts unified)
02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
02/21/2021 Bowling Green
03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
03/20/2021 Lake Superior State


01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
02/21/2020 Belts unified
 
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Saturday update
Code: 
                   [U]Current Holder[/U]         [U]Next Defense[/U]
[B]The Belt           Cornell                2021-22[/B]
The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              Minnesota State 03/28/2021
The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          Minnesota Duluth 04/08/2021
AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
B1G Belt           Minnesota              2021-22
ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           2021-22
HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
NCHC Belt          Minnesota Duluth       NCAA Tourney at earliest
WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    2021-22
Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             2021-22
Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              Minnesota State 03/28/2021
New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    2021-22
D II P u Alt SO    American International 2021-22
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22

Corrections are always appreciated.
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
 
I think since LSSU already had the "old" CCHA belt have them start with it again in the 2021 season. But retire the WCHA belt. If you maintain and track it as a belt it might as well he the "West" belt since basically every western team would be eligible. It would be basically the western version of the New England Belt. But I think that one is a litle broad too, personally. I think the only belt that should have that many teams be eligible to get it is "The Belt" itself. The conference belts, the state belts, and the belt itself all make sense. I'm on the fence on the play-up belts but whatever. The New England and a potential WCHA/West belt seem a bit much.

But if you do the old WCHA, I say make it the West Belt. NCHC, BiG, and CCHA and any independent in the west (ASU and UAH and the Alaska schools if they survive) are eligible. HE, ECAC, ATLANTIC, LIU, all eligible for the East belt (former New England). I know with Air Force that is a little wonky but that is what comes with conference affiliation)
 
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Proud2baLaker said:
I think since LSSU already had the "old" CCHA belt have them start with it again in the 2021 season. But retire the WCHA belt. If you maintain and track it as a belt it might as well he the "West" belt since basically every western team would be eligible. It would be basically the western version of the New England Belt. But I think that one is a litle broad too, personally. I think the only belt that should have that many teams be eligible to get it is "The Belt" itself. The conference belts, the state belts, and the belt itself all make sense. I'm on the fence on the play-up belts but whatever. The New England and a potential WCHA/West belt seem a bit much.

But if you do the old WCHA, I say make it the West Belt. NCHC, BiG, and CCHA and any independent in the west (ASU and UAH and the Alaska schools if they survive) are eligible. HE, ECAC, ATLANTIC, LIU, all eligible for the East belt (former New England). I know with Air Force that is a little wonky but that is what comes with conference affiliation)
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Thanks for your opinions and suggestions. I do agree that there are too may Belts, but ...

Whether I start the New CCHA Belt from the existing WCHA Belt or the existing WCHA Belt won't make much difference since they will be unified next season unless the existing CCHA Belt wanders off to a team now in the NCHC or B1G. It's LSSU's responsibility. :-) One could also start a completely new CCHA belt and award one or more to whichever teams win the first day that any game is played next season between two CCHA teams. I lean against doing that.
 
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