The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

[Wayuphere]

Okay. So the bottom line is it is still evolving with no decisions yet. Makes sense.

 

[Blackbear96]

I'm fine with that if people refuse to get the frickin shot.

I'm going to respectfully bow out of this conversation. I think there's always a real one to be had; however it doesn't belong in this forum. If we want to talk Maine Hockey, so be it, but that conversation has no place here. Be well.

 

[Drew S.]

No one has been more critical than me of the athletic department down the years but how can anyone reasonably expect them to be able to know what the Covid situation willl look like in a couple months? We’re going to have to be patient and all do our bit to keep the virus from spreading.

 

[Wayuphere]

No one has been more critical than me of the athletic department down the years but how can anyone reasonably expect them to be able to know what the Covid situation willl look like in a couple months? We’re going to have to be patient and all do our bit to keep the virus from spreading.

Because they are expecting us to fork over hundreds of dollars with the season tickets
renewal deadline fast approaching.
They had no problem detailing student Covid policies already, what’s the plan for the public?
Reasonable question….

 

[UncleRay]

Bradz didn't take down the thread. Want to guess who did?

If you want a vacation from USCHO, please keep on this tack.

Thank you. I figured that was your work. On the other hand, it did keep all that drivel contained and off this thread. I, for one, am extremely tired of CM's trolling on this thread, polite though it may attempt to appear. He's kind of like the nice southern lady saying, "bless your heart."

 

[Drew S.]

Because they are expecting us to fork over hundreds of dollars with the season tickets
renewal deadline fast approaching.
They had no problem detailing student Covid policies already, what’s the plan for the public?
Reasonable question….

Students will be on campus a couple months before hockey’s first home game. I’m sure they will make you whole if fans aren’t allowed or you’re not comfortable with the Covid policies. I paid for a couple season tickets and am very excited to get to some games but if it doesn’t work out I’m not going to be mad at the athletic department.

 

[NorthMike]

If that's the case, they should be ready for about 50-75% attendance...

Mainers are almost 80% vaccinated, i think it would be closer to 75% attendance or more. Games havent been sold out in years anyhow. What might matter is how many vaccinated folks will stay home if they dont put that requirement in place.
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[NorthMike]

Because they are expecting us to fork over hundreds of dollars with the season tickets
renewal deadline fast approaching.
They had no problem detailing student Covid policies already, what’s the plan for the public?
Reasonable question….

When is season tick renewal deadline?
End of Aug?

 

[Wayuphere]

Students will be on campus a couple months before hockey’s first home game. I’m sure they will make you whole if fans aren’t allowed or you’re not comfortable with the Covid policies. I paid for a couple season tickets and am very excited to get to some games but if it doesn’t work out I’m not going to be mad at the athletic department.

Well, duh. That’s the obvious.
I’m asking what, if any, facts or rumors have been heard from the SCHOOL. Proof of vax? Mask requirement? Spaced seating, etc?
Dont hold your breathe on reimbursement if not “comfortable” with covid policy
is the excuse for not going. I prefer to know the policy prior to the season. There should be one by now or in the very immediate future. I would hope they announce something shortly….
This will be my 37th year of season tixs, also
excited to go. By now, mid August, I’ve usually gotten way more info in years past on “giveaways” etc., then the crickets I’m hearing this year on a much more important topic.

 

[Wayuphere]

When is season tick renewal deadline?
End of Aug?

Or first week of September.

 

[Wayuphere]

September 3.

 

[UncleRay]

It would seem to me that the U is in a bit of a no-win situation with announcing CV-19 protocols for fans. If they announce now but have to tighten them later, fans risk being upset at the line being in motion. If they wait to make a better-informed decision later, fans risk being upset with a lack of information.

 

[Wayuphere]

It would seem to me that the U is in a bit of a no-win situation with announcing CV-19 protocols for fans. If they announce now but have to tighten them later, fans risk being upset at the line being in motion. If they wait to make a better-informed decision later, fans risk being upset with a lack of information.

I agree. I honestly think we will see several “changes” as the season progresses, to maybe even include a “no fans”
stretch. So to me, let’s start with “something” at least. I have no doubt masks will be a part of it, possibly proof of vaccination, but regardless, give us something. I know a few unvaccinated fans who would go and get the shot if that was a requirement, but I also know fans who not only would say no shot, but also no mask. All are diehard fans. Though I don’t agree with them, even they deserve a policy, soon…

 

[amkirby10]

Per the team Instagram, Nolan Renwick, Tim Gould, and David Breazeale are officially joining the team in 2021-2022.

 

[FLHockeyMom]

Per the team Instagram, Nolan Renwick, Tim Gould, and David Breazeale are officially joining the team in 2021-2022.

Wow, that would make 33 players on the roster if you include Dominic Dockery, Merrimack transfer and Remy Parker returning/not transferring out of the portal. I foresee some disgruntled players leading to cuts after Barr Year #1 AKA the Carvel plan. Worked for him.

 

[BlackBearFan19]

Wow, that would make 33 players on the roster if you include Dominic Dockery, Merrimack transfer and Remy Parker returning/not transferring out of the portal. I foresee some disgruntled players leading to cuts after Barr Year #1 AKA the Carvel plan. Worked for him.

There will probably be a big overhaul next year based on the numbers but I don’t think that will be unique to Maine. With the extra year of eligibility I think we’ll see a lot of programs having to make significant cuts.

From the looks of it, this team is going to be pretty deep, there isn’t a ton of high end talent but Renwick should come in and make an immediate impact. Gould could make the lineup too. I wouldn’t be shocked to see a lot of upperclassmen miss out on playing time this season.

 

[amkirby10]

There will probably be a big overhaul next year based on the numbers but I don’t think that will be unique to Maine. With the extra year of eligibility I think we’ll see a lot of programs having to make significant cuts.

From the looks of it, this team is going to be pretty deep, there isn’t a ton of high end talent but Renwick should come in and make an immediate impact. Gould could make the lineup too. I wouldn’t be shocked to see a lot of upperclassmen miss out on playing time this season.

I remember Gould being a solid prospect I had my eye on for a while. I'm excited to see him play and I expect him to stick in the lineup.

 

[Drew S.]

I remember Gould being a solid prospect I had my eye on for a while. I'm excited to see him play and I expect him to stick in the lineup.

I get the impression Butala, Bisson, Dunn, Dockery, Gould, and Breazele are all fairly close together talent wise. It would be nice if Dunn made a big jump as he was supposed to be a good recruit.

Renwick coming in is great news. Anyone who is able to lead a USHL team in goals should be a productive college player.

 

[NorthMike]

Wow, that would make 33 players on the roster if you include Dominic Dockery, Merrimack transfer and Remy Parker returning/not transferring out of the portal. I foresee some disgruntled players leading to cuts after Barr Year #1 AKA the Carvel plan. Worked for him.

Thats right!
Fits in with his philosophy to separate those willing to adopt to the culture and fit to it. If a player gets disgruntled then its pretty clear they arent bought in or fit correctly. Like Barr says its not for everyone and no shame in moving on.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Just so you folks who don't check in on the UNH thread from time to time don't miss out ...

Satire is fine. A bunch of fat jokes aimed at one person is not.

I wanted to save this one for last today. It just goes to show how soft we've all become, when this PC censorship passes for community management, or whatever it is that the mods claim to police here at USCHO. Keep in mind, my comments were not directed at another poster - they were directed at the associate head coaching hire at UMaine (in the public realm, no?).

By the way, while complimenting UMaine for otherwise "knocking it out of the park" in the offseason by hiring Ben Barr, who I have no doubt will turn your program around in a positive way, and in less time than many on here seem to think ... I've said more than once that UMaine "won" the offseason. And I haven't ruled out the possibility that despite his excessive girth, AHC Fortier may prove to be a good D-1 coach after all at some point. He can end any talk about his weight simply, in two ways: (1) lose some of the weight, and look the part of a D-1 coach; and/or (2) keep the weight on, but beat everyone's brains out on the recruiting trails, and win lots of games on the ice. Having USCHO mods run interference for him shouldn't be Door #3.

It wasn't all that long ago that posters (and not just myself) would satirically mock or mimic Coach York for his manner of speaking, or Paul Pooley for being bald, or even Blaise MacDonald for being short. Arguably, any of those three coaches had less control over their "situations" that landed them in the line of fire than Fortier does. But none of those guys was ever afforded any protection from the USCHO mods (nor can I even begin to imagine they worried about it). Coach York ended his "situation" by winning a boatload of D-1 titles at BC. Pooley and MacDonald lost their jobs, and were eventually replaced by better, more accomplished coaches - not because they were bald or short, or whatever.

Lastly ... the whole way it was handled by USCHO (you?) was laughable. So, I was having some fun on the UMaine thread, because we have a rich and colorful history together, and believe it or not, I have some friends there as well. Some folks were thinking I was going soft on UMaine, and wondered if I was being sincere. I was (and still am) 100% sincere about thinking Barr is the right man/right time, and UMaine is on track to return to past glories, and being jealous that he wasn't at UNH. When Fortier's image started to become widely available after his hire, I decided to "reassure" my UMaine-iacs friends their "old Chuck" foe was still alive and well, starting a line of parodies on Fortier that apparently made some folks uncomfortable.

That would probably have played out by now, except one UMaine poster wanted to call attention to their displeasure with my postings, starting a new thread ("The Influence of USCHO") which was either brilliant satire in and of itself OR a thinly veiled threat to my posting status, legal issues, etc. I took that as an invitation to take the silliness out of the UMaine thread, and to continue it in the "Influence" thread. So I was either (1) joining on on the joke, OR (2) telling the poster what I thought of his threats, and where he could more permanently store them, so to speak. Keep in mind also ... if it was the former, it wouldn't have been the first time I adapted a UMaine poster's quip into a running gag (see WIS as Walshy is Satan, et al).

But now USCHO, after allowing free rein on all public realm commentary - including last year's WIS expose of BC Chancellor Shea a/k/a HEA referee Kevin Shea (presumably because it's 100% provably true) - is now stepping in as the PC arbiters of good taste to defend a nondescript UMaine AHC from obvious observations that he is just plain fat?

You at least owe an explanation as to exactly where the line is being drawn these days, and why ...