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The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!

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The idiots who made the film are guilty of incitement. The question is whether incitement under those circumstance passes a "reasonable man" standard. The answer to that is there is no one standard. It does in the fundamentalist worldview but it doesn't in our secular worldview.

If you walk around San Francisco in a Halloween costume of Jesus taking it up the *** from Ronald Reagan, you can expect to be bought a few drinks. If you walk around Birmingham in a Halloween costume of Jesus taking it up the *** from Ronald Reagan, you can expect to get beaten up.
 
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Kepler said:
If you walk around Birmingham in a Halloween costume of Jesus taking it up the *** from Ronald Reagan, you can expect to get beaten up.
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You can also expect to file assault charges and probably a lawsuit. Honestly, this is not much different than the Westboro Baptist retards. The only difference is that at this point, WBC are a troll act just looking for reasons to file lawsuits, whereas whoever made this film probably believes everything in it.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
You can also expect to file assault charges and probably a lawsuit. Honestly, this is not much different than the Westboro Baptist retards. The only difference is that at this point, WBC are a troll act just looking for reasons to file lawsuits, whereas whoever made this film probably believes everything in it.
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It's the same as the WBC. The movie's writer/producer/director is a convicted con artist. This was all about making money. He trolled the world, the Islamic right reacted perfectly and the American right swallowed the hook. The guy's P. T. Barnum, and there's a fundy sucker born every minute either in Algeria or Alabama.
 
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Kepler said:
The irony of a Republican flack making this statement is delicious.
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you are such an a s s. because Democrats have bad policy and I call them on it, how does that make me Republican? i haven't posted anything in support of them or their policies that you can point to.

I suppose to you, everyone who doesn't bow down and worship at the cult of Obama is somehow a conservative knuckledragger tea party menace to all that is right and good in the world? Or is nuance just too stressful for that complacent self-admiring preening you do to register in your awareness?
 
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setting aside snark for a time, it seems we are again learning something anew that we shouldn't have forgotten from the last time. There are people in this world who have an implacable hatred for us and all we stand for, and they cannot be appeased by anything other than our enslavement or annihilation.

there is no negotiating with people like that.

I knew someone who had a solution to hostage-taking that would definitely work, though I doubt very many people actually would ever implement it: when hostages are taken, you hold a memorial service in their honor. It gave me the chills to hear how matter-of-fact he was about it.

As others have already pointed out, no one takes Russian hostages, no one takes Chinese hostages.
 
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A Muslim-American speaks out:

During the 800 years of Muslim ascendancy beginning in the eighth century—in Southern Europe, North Africa and much of Western Asia—Muslims did not riot to protest non-Muslim insults against Islam or its prophet. There is no historic record of random attacks against non-Muslim targets in retaliation for a non-Muslim insulting Prophet Muhammad, though there are many books derogatory toward Islam's prophet that were written in the era of Islam's great empires. Muslims under Turkey's Ottomans, for example, did not attack non-Muslim envoys (the medieval equivalent of today's embassies) or churches upon hearing of real or rumored European sacrilege against their religion.

Clearly, then, violent responses to perceived injury are not integral to Islam. A religion is what its followers make it, and Muslims opting for violence have chosen to paint their faith as one that is prone to anger. Frustration with their inability to succeed in the competition between nations also has led some Muslims to seek symbolic victories.

Yet the momentary triumph of burning another country's flag or setting on fire a Western business or embassy building is a poor but widespread substitute for global success that eludes the modern world's 1.5 billion Muslims. Violent protest represents the lower rung of the ladder of rage; terrorism is its higher form.

Islamists almost by definition have a vested interest in continuously fanning the flames of Muslim victimhood. For Islamists, wrath against the West is the basis for their claim to the support of Muslim masses, taking attention away from societal political and economic failures. For example, the 57 member states of the Organization of Islamic Conference account for one-fifth of the world's population but their combined gross domestic product is less than 7% of global output—a harsh reality for which Islamists offer no solution.

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the U.S. would do well to remember Osama bin Laden's comment not long after the Sept. 11 attacks: "When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse." America should do nothing that enables Islamists to portray the nation as the weak horse.
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5mn_Major said:
Have you seen Passion? Critics accurately call it a two hour snuff film that has the intended outcome of inciting rage to an effect that is diametrically opposed to what Jesus stood for. Any Christian organization with a conscience should condemn that film.
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I haven't seen it, but others who have said it is very moving and drives home the point that Jesus paid for our sins in a very very human way.
 
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Timothy A said:
I haven't seen it, but others who have said it is very moving and drives home the point that Jesus paid for our sins in a very very human way.
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I've seen it and you are correct. It's very moving and hard to watch at times due to certain graphic depictions. Can't imagine why people would think it's meant to incite rage. Far from it.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I've seen it and you are correct. It's very moving and hard to watch at times due to certain graphic depictions. Can't imagine why people would think it's meant to incite rage. Far from it.
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It'd only incite rage if your name is Eric Cartman.
 
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Timothy A said:
I haven't seen it, but others who have said it is very moving and drives home the point that Jesus paid for our sins in a very very human way.
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You should see it then. I likened the experience to having a full glass of straight whiskey.

Just for comparison the Hunger Games and movies like Black Knight Rising are PG13. The later where both the city DA and Batman's girlfriend were tied to explosives and police had to choose who to save (Batman's GF was summarily blown up). Well, Passion is rated a much stiffer R strictly on violence and earns every bloody bit.

It incited alot of anger...and also deserved every bit. Another stupid movie in its own right.
 
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5mn_Major said:
You should see it then. I likened the experience to having a full glass of straight whiskey.

Just for comparison the Hunger Games and movies like Black Knight Rising are PG13. The later where both the city DA and Batman's girlfriend were tied to explosives and police had to choose who to save (Batman's GF was summarily blown up). Well, Passion is rated a much stiffer R strictly on violence and earns every bloody bit.

It incited alot of anger...and also deserved every bit. Another stupid movie in its own right.
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I wouldn't expect you to appreciate or understand it. Thankfully most folks don't have your extreme views.
 
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Kepler said:
there's a fundy sucker born every minute either in Algeria or Alabama.
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Because American people who are conservative are basically The Taliban. They're the same thing right? Plus I'm betting they (the American ones especially) want to start a "War Against Women" because they probably hate women right?
 
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