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The 2018-19 Schedules Thread

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I'm assuming WCHA rival pairings (NMU/MTU, LSSU/FSU, BGSU/UAH, MSU/BSU, UA/UAA) will be playing the last weekend of the WCHA regular season the first weekend of March?
 
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I’ve confirmed the following teams for Minnesota State next season. No official dates yet.

Boston University (in October)
AT North Dakota
Home and Home Minnesota
AT ASU’s Desert Hockey Classic

Do you know if UND is heading to Mankato the following year?
 
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Link to this year's spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmduvEavIzlPZci4Y7UuB8wPuVSZZOOa3mdIjMgeea8/

Obviously with no information in the date area, no one to report as "effectively complete"*.

* Effectively complete meaning the school has released the schedule, or enough alternate information has been reported to determine the schedule is complete, minus exhibition games. Discretion will be used to determine whether WCHA teams will be using their entire allotment.
 
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Dont know the dates but ohio state is going out to Arizona State next year for 2 games.
 
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Dont know the dates but ohio state is going out to Arizona State next year for 2 games.

Thanks much. Even incomplete news is still good news here, especially if schools have a tendency to release a bit late. We can usually piece together, based on common schedules, when people are going to play, and sometimes where depending on the teams.

Anyone yet figure out if there's a pattern to the extra conference games in the NCHC, similar to how there's a set rotation in the WCHA, or based on previous year positioning in HEA? I know some of the RIT folk have tried to figure out AHC and weren't able to figure out a rotation; don't know if they've tried basing it on previous year positioning or not...
 
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Looks like the NCHC looks to be on a six year rotation. You have a "partner" that you play four times every year. Then, in two of the six years, you'll play two of the teams twice only (in one location; swap in 3 years). We're in year six of the rotation. The "MORE INFO HERE" section of the spreadsheet has the breakdown of who plays where if you'd like to see it; follow the 6th non-comma character.
 
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Looks like the NCHC looks to be on a six year rotation. You have a "partner" that you play four times every year. Then, in two of the six years, you'll play two of the teams twice only (in one location; swap in 3 years). We're in year six of the rotation. The "MORE INFO HERE" section of the spreadsheet has the breakdown of who plays where if you'd like to see it; follow the 6th non-comma character.

I assume that you mean "ENTER INFO HERE".

Could you explain what the columns in the HEA table (Close, High, Mid, Low) signify?
 
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I assume that you mean "ENTER INFO HERE".

Could you explain what the columns in the HEA table (Close, High, Mid, Low) signify?

Yeah, that. :)

Regarding HEA: When the announcement was made during the prior offseason that HEA would be going to a 24-game schedule and rotating teams based on past performance from the previous two years, I strove to find out who would play who. Based on some of the teams releasing their schedules, I was able to figure out that the 3rd game opponents would be vs. a team that was right next to them in ranking ("Close"; it won't be entirely reciprocal because there's an odd number of teams), as well as, from the teams remaining, one who was in the upper band (1-3), middle band (4-6), and lower band (7-9). It worked out that one from each of the four categories is who they play. It's not as relevant this year as it was last year because the opponents remain the same this year with the locations flipped (obviously the current year's schedule sheet starts as a copy of the previous year's sheet), but next year, the exercise will happen again, as a new set of four opponents will be selected for each team.
 
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Yeah, that. :)

Regarding HEA: When the announcement was made during the prior offseason that HEA would be going to a 24-game schedule and rotating teams based on past performance from the previous two years, I strove to find out who would play who. Based on some of the teams releasing their schedules, I was able to figure out that the 3rd game opponents would be vs. a team that was right next to them in ranking ("Close"; it won't be entirely reciprocal because there's an odd number of teams), as well as, from the teams remaining, one who was in the upper band (1-3), middle band (4-6), and lower band (7-9). It worked out that one from each of the four categories is who they play. It's not as relevant this year as it was last year because the opponents remain the same this year with the locations flipped (obviously the current year's schedule sheet starts as a copy of the previous year's sheet), but next year, the exercise will happen again, as a new set of four opponents will be selected for each team.

Got it. Having a prime number of teams causes lots of inequities.
 
Got it. Having a prime number of teams causes lots of inequities.

Primality isn’t the issue. It’s that 20 games are seen as too few and 30 too many.

Odd numbered teams is often more convenient as it means in a single round robins with home site play you can get an even road/Home balance

Edit: I can see an issue with not being able to have sub-pods but that only means balance within that pod. When you get large and prime like 11 you can’t subdivide the league for scheduling.

If we had a 15 team hockey league it’d be easy to say play all once then play the division members and additional time for 22 games. Primes take away those issues but 14 teams would also be awkward though you’d probably just see a 26 game schedule.
 
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Primality isn’t the issue. It’s that 20 games are seen as too few and 30 too many.

Odd numbered teams is often more convenient as it means in a single round robins with home site play you can get an even road/Home balance

Edit: I can see an issue with not being able to have sub-pods but that only means balance within that pod. When you get large and prime like 11 you can’t subdivide the league for scheduling.

If we had a 15 team hockey league it’d be easy to say play all once then play the division members and additional time for 22 games. Primes take away those issues but 14 teams would also be awkward though you’d probably just see a 26 game schedule.

I don't follow your 15-team example. Playing every team once is 14 games. How are divisions set up to get 8 more games?
 
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Primality isn’t the issue. It’s that 20 games are seen as too few and 30 too many.

Odd numbered teams is often more convenient as it means in a single round robins with home site play you can get an even road/Home balance

Edit: I can see an issue with not being able to have sub-pods but that only means balance within that pod. When you get large and prime like 11 you can’t subdivide the league for scheduling.

If we had a 15 team hockey league it’d be easy to say play all once then play the division members and additional time for 22 games. Primes take away those issues but 14 teams would also be awkward though you’d probably just see a 26 game schedule.

I thought Ralph was just making a funny with the "prime". ;) 24 games does certainly make it easier compared to a couple years ago, considering there are members that require two-game-series weekends in one location instead of one-night stands or home/home series (given HEA doesn't use travel partners).

The way that was chosen works surprisingly well, given 11 - self - "close" opponent = 9, which can be broken into those three "pods".
 
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I don't follow your 15-team example. Playing every team once is 14 games. How are divisions set up to get 8 more games?

Split them into 3 divisions of 5, and you get another game with each in your division, and then either two in each of the others, or four in one. Slightly similar to how the NFL handled out-of-conference games when there were 6 divisions, or presently handles in-conference non-division play.
 
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I thought Ralph was just making a funny with the "prime". ;) 24 games does certainly make it easier compared to a couple years ago, considering there are members that require two-game-series weekends in one location instead of one-night stands or home/home series (given HEA doesn't use travel partners).

The way that was chosen works surprisingly well, given 11 - self - "close" opponent = 9, which can be broken into those three "pods".

I goofed on the 15 member.

16 is what I was talking about for 15+7

15 you play each twice for 28 or break into three divisions... 14 + 8 or 12
 
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