Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Because they can walk there.
Because they can walk there.
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brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Not spin, it's semantics. Doesn't matter that no one on the roster played a home game there, it's a two-mile drive from their rink. That's a home game. On the flipside though, PC rarely sells out a 3K arena, so it's not like the Dunk is going to be swarmed with Friar fans.
Not spin, it's semantics. Doesn't matter that no one on the roster played a home game there, it's a two-mile drive from their rink. That's a home game. On the flipside though, PC rarely sells out a 3K arena, so it's not like the Dunk is going to be swarmed with Friar fans.
The Zlax45
Registered User
If BU, BC, or Harvard makes the Garden is that a home game for those three?
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
So how close does the arena have to be for it to be a "home game" or on "home ice?"
If I decide to go to the library and work on a case, am I working out of my home office because it is 2 miles to the library?
I just don't buy the argument that just because it is close it is a home game or on home ice. It is the same discussion I would have with people when they would say that Minnesota had home ice when they played at the X. Just because an arena is close, does not mean that it is home ice. Does Providence have an advantage that they don't have to travel? Yes. Are they playing a home game on home ice? No.
So how close does the arena have to be for it to be a "home game" or on "home ice?"
If I decide to go to the library and work on a case, am I working out of my home office because it is 2 miles to the library?
I just don't buy the argument that just because it is close it is a home game or on home ice. It is the same discussion I would have with people when they would say that Minnesota had home ice when they played at the X. Just because an arena is close, does not mean that it is home ice. Does Providence have an advantage that they don't have to travel? Yes. Are they playing a home game on home ice? No.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
In the sense that they don't have to travel, can sleep in their own beds, can practice on their home rink all week, eat their pregame meal at their home facility, and more than likely have more fans than the opponent, yes, it is. I'm not complaining about PC playing there, they play where they play and I don't think it'll factor into the outcome of the game, but to call PC playing in Providence not a home game is ridiculous.
In the sense that they don't have to travel, can sleep in their own beds, can practice on their home rink all week, eat their pregame meal at their home facility, and more than likely have more fans than the opponent, yes, it is. I'm not complaining about PC playing there, they play where they play and I don't think it'll factor into the outcome of the game, but to call PC playing in Providence not a home game is ridiculous.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Yes, and of course the result to the "absolute financial bath" situation is that no sites want to take on the risk. Heck, if Notre Dame takes financial beating this year, it might even be hard to get campus sites to host western regionals. And from a "fairness" standpoint, the NCAA dodged a major bullet this year when Notre Dame didn't make the tournament as a #4 seed and host a #1 seed.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Then BU really lucked out. They get home ice for the Regionals and the Frozen Four.
Then BU really lucked out. They get home ice for the Regionals and the Frozen Four.
The Zlax45
Registered User
I only say it is a neutral site game after what happened with Dayton in the hoops tourney
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
The real point is that while the Garden would be an advantage for those teams, there's nothing unfair about it. If you want a tournament to be in a certain town, someone has to submit a bid. Successful bidders do obtain an advantage for local teams, but do so by playing by the rules. And sites are chosen years in advance. There's no way to know for sure which close by team will benefit.
In contrast, assigning a #4 seed a game within walking distance of their campus is going to strike many as an unearned advantage. I'm OK with concluding that the Friar's placement constitutes the lesser of the evils. But anyone trying to pretend that PC didn't catch a major break is just being silly.
Yes or no, take your pick.
The real point is that while the Garden would be an advantage for those teams, there's nothing unfair about it. If you want a tournament to be in a certain town, someone has to submit a bid. Successful bidders do obtain an advantage for local teams, but do so by playing by the rules. And sites are chosen years in advance. There's no way to know for sure which close by team will benefit.
In contrast, assigning a #4 seed a game within walking distance of their campus is going to strike many as an unearned advantage. I'm OK with concluding that the Friar's placement constitutes the lesser of the evils. But anyone trying to pretend that PC didn't catch a major break is just being silly.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
And so did North Dakota. It happens in NCAA hockey, we all know this.
Then BU really lucked out. They get home ice for the Regionals and the Frozen Four.
And so did North Dakota. It happens in NCAA hockey, we all know this.
Fighting Sioux 23
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Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
I think we're really stretching the imagination here if we're going to say that North Dakota has home ice for the Frozen Four...
I think we're really stretching the imagination here if we're going to say that North Dakota has home ice for the Frozen Four...
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
If BU wins the FF, they will be 6-0 at the Garden this year. At least one team will benefit from playing there. The Bruins sure don't.Then BU really lucked out. They get home ice for the Regionals and the Frozen Four.
Then you can't say, even jokingly, that Manchester, NH is a "home" game for BU. It's in a different state.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
You know I meant the regionals. This is hair splitting at this point. PC has a de facto home game. It will not be a deciding factor in the outcome of the game against Miami.
You know I meant the regionals. This is hair splitting at this point. PC has a de facto home game. It will not be a deciding factor in the outcome of the game against Miami.
Happy
Registered User
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
except for that time that the refs kicked Michigan's best player out of the game. the refs gave you that game.
except for that time that the refs kicked Michigan's best player out of the game. the refs gave you that game.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
Even Pizzo (BTN) was perplexed by this move. It would have definitely helped actual attendance in both regions, IMO, if the sent MN to South Bend and kept Harvard east. If MN was sent to Fargo, methinks cities would have burned.
Even Pizzo (BTN) was perplexed by this move. It would have definitely helped actual attendance in both regions, IMO, if the sent MN to South Bend and kept Harvard east. If MN was sent to Fargo, methinks cities would have burned.
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
True, they did. So they owe us 13, which would put us at 21 banners by 2027.
True, they did. So they owe us 13, which would put us at 21 banners by 2027.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
The best part in all of this is that according to the ranking Quinnipiac should be there and Providence should be in Fargo, so why make that switch except to decide that Providence will bring more fans which will make Miami as the #1 seed play in a more hostile environment than they should. Does that make sense?
The best part in all of this is that according to the ranking Quinnipiac should be there and Providence should be in Fargo, so why make that switch except to decide that Providence will bring more fans which will make Miami as the #1 seed play in a more hostile environment than they should. Does that make sense?
Re: The 2015 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread
That MIA game last night affected a LOT of what we see today.
That MIA game last night affected a LOT of what we see today.