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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
Game 1 for Worcester is at 4pm and Game 2 is at 7:30pm (approx)
Game 1 for Worcester is at 4pm and Game 2 is at 7:30pm (approx)
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
I don't see N. Dakota and Vermont switching. If the NCAA rules for travel are the same across all sports, and I think they are, the NCAA will have to pay for airfare for UND no matter where they go. Since they have to pay airfare anyway, why break the integrity of the bracket to get N. Dakota into the regional at Cincinnati. If they could move them to the Minnesota region, that would be a reason for the switch, but I don't think that is a possible, nor overall desirable switch.
On second thought, N. Dakota has to fly no matter what, but I don't think Vermont would. I am changing my position. Vermont goes to Bridgeport, and UND goes to Cincy. Vermont would have to fly to Cincy, but would be a drive to Bridgeport, thus saving the NCAA $$$$$.
I don't see N. Dakota and Vermont switching. If the NCAA rules for travel are the same across all sports, and I think they are, the NCAA will have to pay for airfare for UND no matter where they go. Since they have to pay airfare anyway, why break the integrity of the bracket to get N. Dakota into the regional at Cincinnati. If they could move them to the Minnesota region, that would be a reason for the switch, but I don't think that is a possible, nor overall desirable switch.
On second thought, N. Dakota has to fly no matter what, but I don't think Vermont would. I am changing my position. Vermont goes to Bridgeport, and UND goes to Cincy. Vermont would have to fly to Cincy, but would be a drive to Bridgeport, thus saving the NCAA $$$$$.
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Tipsy McStagger
Falling on fans at NHC since 2001
Uhh, the wouldn't have to pay for Vermont airfare. That is the argument here. Also attendance boost.
Go Redskins
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
East Regional, Frozen Four - John Buccigross (play-by-play), Barry Melrose (color) and Quint Kessenich (reporter).
Midwest Regional - Joe Beninati and Darren Eliot
Northeast Regional - Joe Davis and Billy Jaffe
West Regional - Clay Matvick and Sean Ritchlin
March 28
2 p.m. ET - East Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPNU)
4:30 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPN3)
5:30 p.m. ET - East Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
8 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
March 29
3 p.m. ET - East Regional Final (ESPN2)
4 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPNU)
5:30 p.m. ET - West Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPN2)
6:30 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Final (ESPNU)
7:30 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPN3)
9 p.m. ET - West Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
March 30
5 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Final (ESPNU)
7:30 p.m. ET - West Regional Final (ESPNU)
April 10
5 p.m. ET - National Semifinal #1 (ESPN2)
8:30 p.m. ET - National Semifinal #2 (ESPN2)
April 12
7:30 p.m. ET - National Championship (ESPN)
East Regional, Frozen Four - John Buccigross (play-by-play), Barry Melrose (color) and Quint Kessenich (reporter).
Midwest Regional - Joe Beninati and Darren Eliot
Northeast Regional - Joe Davis and Billy Jaffe
West Regional - Clay Matvick and Sean Ritchlin
March 28
2 p.m. ET - East Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPNU)
4:30 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPN3)
5:30 p.m. ET - East Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
8 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
March 29
3 p.m. ET - East Regional Final (ESPN2)
4 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPNU)
5:30 p.m. ET - West Regional Semifinal #1 (ESPN2)
6:30 p.m. ET - Midwest Regional Final (ESPNU)
7:30 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPN3)
9 p.m. ET - West Regional Semifinal #2 (ESPNU)
March 30
5 p.m. ET - Northeast Regional Final (ESPNU)
7:30 p.m. ET - West Regional Final (ESPNU)
April 10
5 p.m. ET - National Semifinal #1 (ESPN2)
8:30 p.m. ET - National Semifinal #2 (ESPN2)
April 12
7:30 p.m. ET - National Championship (ESPN)
They did not travel well to Grand Rapids last year. I would be surprised if they got moved to Cincinnati for attendance purposes.
Kdaddy1968
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
Fans might travel better if they didn't pick small fortress hubs. Cincy is $$$$$$ to fly into from anywhere. I can't imagine that airfare from ND to Cincy is cheap. If you want fans to travel try picking places that have actual capacity.
Fans might travel better if they didn't pick small fortress hubs. Cincy is $$$$$$ to fly into from anywhere. I can't imagine that airfare from ND to Cincy is cheap. If you want fans to travel try picking places that have actual capacity.
ZYanksRule
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
My condolences to fans of the teams in the Midwest Region, who are going to have to listen to Joe Beninati scream at them.
My condolences to fans of the teams in the Midwest Region, who are going to have to listen to Joe Beninati scream at them.
uniontrack
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
Here is an excerpt from the NCAA Travel rules : http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2013-14+D1+champs+trav+policies.pdf
Drive/Fly: Participating institutions located within 400 miles (for Division I) of the competition site are required to travel via ground transportation rather than by air. However, the institution may choose to travel by air and be reimbursed by the NCAA for the cost of ground transportation.
Commercial Flights: Flight options are limited due to the quick turn around time of championship travel and the seasonality of NCAA championships. Institutions that fly should be prepared to have connecting flights, split their travel party and leave campus early in the morning.
Hub Rule: Institutions may be required to fly out of any airport that is within 150 miles of their campus (for Division I). They may also be required to fly into any airport that is within 150 miles of the competition site. For example, a team in a rural area serviced only by regional airports may be required to drive to a metropolitan area to fly from a major airport.
Distances: UVM - Bridgeport 288 miles
UVM - Cincy 803 miles
UVM to Bridgeport so that NCAA only has to pay for a coach bus...
I used to coach Track & Field in the NCAA and ran into the travel rules and who pays what all the time...
I agree that sending UND to Cincy for attendance wouldn't be enough $$$ to make the switch , but saving 37 last minute commercial tickets vs one coach bus round trip on I-89/I-91 will make the committee's decision to switch as easy as pie...
Best market price for a ticket from UVM to Cincy on United right now is around $575 x 37 = $21,275...Hence UVM will take a coach bus to Bridgeport...
Here is an excerpt from the NCAA Travel rules : http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2013-14+D1+champs+trav+policies.pdf
Drive/Fly: Participating institutions located within 400 miles (for Division I) of the competition site are required to travel via ground transportation rather than by air. However, the institution may choose to travel by air and be reimbursed by the NCAA for the cost of ground transportation.
Commercial Flights: Flight options are limited due to the quick turn around time of championship travel and the seasonality of NCAA championships. Institutions that fly should be prepared to have connecting flights, split their travel party and leave campus early in the morning.
Hub Rule: Institutions may be required to fly out of any airport that is within 150 miles of their campus (for Division I). They may also be required to fly into any airport that is within 150 miles of the competition site. For example, a team in a rural area serviced only by regional airports may be required to drive to a metropolitan area to fly from a major airport.
Distances: UVM - Bridgeport 288 miles
UVM - Cincy 803 miles
UVM to Bridgeport so that NCAA only has to pay for a coach bus...
I used to coach Track & Field in the NCAA and ran into the travel rules and who pays what all the time...
I agree that sending UND to Cincy for attendance wouldn't be enough $$$ to make the switch , but saving 37 last minute commercial tickets vs one coach bus round trip on I-89/I-91 will make the committee's decision to switch as easy as pie...
Best market price for a ticket from UVM to Cincy on United right now is around $575 x 37 = $21,275...Hence UVM will take a coach bus to Bridgeport...
Kdaddy1968
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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
That was meant as a general issue. It's $617 into Hartford (for Bridgeport) from Grand Forks as it is toss up vs NYC airports. BTV to Cincy is over $500. In all my fun and joy of going into and out of these smaller hubs the airfares suck. I would prefer they just pick a few major markets that have more options.
That was meant as a general issue. It's $617 into Hartford (for Bridgeport) from Grand Forks as it is toss up vs NYC airports. BTV to Cincy is over $500. In all my fun and joy of going into and out of these smaller hubs the airfares suck. I would prefer they just pick a few major markets that have more options.
Kdaddy1968
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Yeah but Wisc vs Union as an opponent? I would take Wisc right now. Playing Union is the short stick of that swap.
Yeah but Wisc vs Union as an opponent? I would take Wisc right now. Playing Union is the short stick of that swap.
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Gurtholfin
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West Region has some intriguing possibilities...
Lucia vs. Lucia or Jan vs. Marsha
Should be interesting either way.
That's assuming of course that Minny doesn't get Holy Crossed by RM.
West Region has some intriguing possibilities...
Lucia vs. Lucia or Jan vs. Marsha
Should be interesting either way.
That's assuming of course that Minny doesn't get Holy Crossed by RM.
Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
Not saying they necessarily travel any worse than other teams, but they don't really get all THAT many people at regions, from what I've seen/heard.
Other than saving money in terms of flying Vermont in, I don't really get it either. Had this discussion with some people during tailgating this weekend. I think there's a feeling that North Dakota travels well, but for regionals, the only places they actually "travel" well seem to be in Minnesota and Denver, which is where most of their alumni tend to live, so it's not really traveling, as much as showing up at a relatively "local" event.
Not saying they necessarily travel any worse than other teams, but they don't really get all THAT many people at regions, from what I've seen/heard.
Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
I'm under 10 min drive to Cincy rink, but the projected teams do nothing to motivate me to go to any games. And I'm a hockey fan (tho interest waning) and I know kids on all 4 teams. I can't imagine the crowds be very big. Now had Miami or Ohio state made it, or notre dame in this region, I could see decent crowds.
I'm under 10 min drive to Cincy rink, but the projected teams do nothing to motivate me to go to any games. And I'm a hockey fan (tho interest waning) and I know kids on all 4 teams. I can't imagine the crowds be very big. Now had Miami or Ohio state made it, or notre dame in this region, I could see decent crowds.
North Dakota fans stay in their campers when they travel and cook- in. ZERO boost to local economy. Go DU
Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`
I went to the regional in Green Bay when UND was there (Frattin and company). While North Dakota didn't bring 10,000 fans, I think they brought about 4,000 of the 4,500 fans that showed up. There was hardly anybody from Denver, Western Michigan, and RPI.
I went to the regional in Green Bay when UND was there (Frattin and company). While North Dakota didn't bring 10,000 fans, I think they brought about 4,000 of the 4,500 fans that showed up. There was hardly anybody from Denver, Western Michigan, and RPI.
Pump It Up
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Oh good for you.
cross cheque
Make the playoffs, not war.
DU fans show up less than their team and that's saying something.
Pump It Up
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There was a DU fan at Target Center tonight.