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The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August

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Which, ever since FDR, has only been used for partisan legislation from the bench. John Roberts has looked to fix that, and quite frankly, he should be the only one still there; they should have 8 new judges.
 
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Which, ever since FDR, has only been used for partisan legislation from the bench. John Roberts has looked to fix that, and quite frankly, he should be the only one still there; they should have 8 new judges.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm not really sure which is funnier, that you think the bench only became tinged with partisanship* under FDR, or that you think Roberts is less partisan than, say, Kennedy.

* This does not mean I think they're "activist judges" or that they're acting improperly by doing so at the SCOTUS level. When interpreting inherently ambiguous terms, there are going to be almost an infinite number of ways to do so.
 
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New income data from the Census Bureau, tabulated by former Census income specialists at the nonpartisan economic consulting firm Sentier Research, reveal that the three-and-a-half years of the Obama Presidency have done enormous harm to middle-class households

In January 2009, the month President Obama entered the Oval Office and shortly before he signed his stimulus spending bill, median household income was $54,983. By June 2012, it had tumbled to $50,964, adjusted for inflation. That's $4,019 in lost real income, a little less than a month's income every year.

Unfair, you say, because Mr. Obama inherited a recession? Well, even if you start the analysis when the recession ended in June 2009, the numbers are dismal. Three years after the economy hit its trough, median household income is down $2,544, or nearly 5%.

Add the authors: "The overall decline since June 2009 was larger than the 2.6 percent decline that occurred" during the recession from December 2007 to June 2009. For household income, in other words, the Obama recovery has been worse than the Bush recession. [emphasis added, this is an amazing statistic!]

It's true that the Bush years overall were also not great for household incomes. According to Sentier's analysis, real median household income is down about 8% from $55,470 in 2000 before the dot-com bubble burst. Some of this decline is due to the continuation of a trend of smaller family size, lower fertility rates and more Americans living alone. But some was also due to the subpar economic growth across the 2000s.

That slow growth trend has become worse since the latest recession, and this is where Mr. Obama is implicated. The President portrays the financial decline of American families on his watch as part of a decades-long trend. He's wrong. Real income for middle-income households rose by roughly 30% from 1983 to 2005, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The political left likes to blame the ebbing of union power. But nongovernment unionization fell dramatically in the 1980s and '90s, and incomes rose.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100..._nocache=1345901800089&user=welcome&mg=id-wsj
 
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When exactly did the WSJ fill up with hacks? In theory, I don't have half the background of some of these guys...and their argument falls apart in seconds.

Unemployment and its impact on household income is a lagging metric. That is to say Obama did not inherit a recession but rather a crisis. The full ramifications of the crisis did not occcur for many months afterwords. Don't believe me?

The Great Depression crisis happened in '29 and '30.

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Per capita GDP didn't bottom until early '33.

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Re: The 2012 Presidential Election Part I - The guns of August

Which, ever since FDR, has only been used for partisan legislation from the bench.
Which is how Social Security was passed. It was declared unconstitutional by the First Circuit Court of Appeals, but overturned by SCOTUS.
 
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Cardinal Dolan will give the benediction at the last night of the GOP convention. A few weeks ago, he notified the Dems what he was doing and told them he would be happy to deliver the same in Charlotte.

Refused -- the Dems are getting their own "prominent Catholic". Speculation its going to be one of the "nuns on the bus".
 
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When exactly did the WSJ fill up with hacks? In theory, I don't have half the background of some of these guys...and their argument falls apart in seconds.

Unemployment and its impact on household income is a lagging metric. That is to say Obama did not inherit a recession but rather a crisis. The full ramifications of the crisis did not occcur for many months afterwords. Don't believe me?

The Great Depression crisis happened in '29 and '30.

450px-1929_wall_street_crash_graph.svg.png


Per capita GDP didn't bottom until early '33.

450px-GDP_depression.svg.png

Honestly. It's like walking past a nichiren shoshu temple. Listen to 'em chant: It's Bush's fault. Bush is worse. Bush did it first.
 
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Which, ever since FDR, has only been used for partisan legislation from the bench. John Roberts has looked to fix that, and quite frankly, he should be the only one still there; they should have 8 new judges.

I would prefer partisans who tend to view things my way. And Republican presidents are far more inclined to nominate them, rather than "wise Latinas."
 
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I would prefer partisans who tend to view things my way. And Republican presidents are far more inclined to nominate them, rather than "wise Latinas."
I'm pretty sure that her being Latina was pretty similar in the decision to pick her as Sandra Day O'Connor being female and Clarence Thomas being black. A distinct factor. Definitely part of the process. But certainly not the only thing, or even the most important thing. Funny. I didn't realize SDO'C and CT were appointed by Democrats. :)
 
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I'm pretty sure that her being Latina was pretty similar in the decision to pick her as Sandra Day O'Connor being female and Clarence Thomas being black. A distinct factor. Definitely part of the process. But certainly not the only thing, or even the most important thing. Funny. I didn't realize SDO'C and CT were appointed by Democrats. :)

O'Connor and Thomas never referred to themselves as "wise woman" or "wise Negro" in their Senate testimony. Only the seniorita.

And what does your weak sarcasm have to do with the point I made anyway?
 
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O'Connor and Thomas never referred to themselves as "wise woman" or "wise Negro" in their Senate testimony. Only the seniorita.

And what does your weak sarcasm have to do with the point I made anyway?
I was just trying to figure out what your point was. But I've moved on. Some puzzles are just to hard for me. (I suppose there may actually have been a point, embedded deeply into yet another snarky, sarcastic comment about how awful libstains are.)
 
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I was just trying to figure out what your point was. But I've moved on. Some puzzles are just to hard for me. (I suppose there may actually have been a point, embedded deeply into yet another snarky, sarcastic comment about how awful libstains are.)

Then your comprehension skills are far less than I had imagined. Maybe you could have someone read the post to you, it might help.
 
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Imagine that... a political ad with disortions of the truth. :rolleyes:

Sorry. Outright lies are not "distortions." The women were presented as "Republicans," when, in fact, they were not. That's a lie. In a country of well north of 300 million people, it ought to be possible to find some formerly Republican women who are "shocked" at learning "their" party is pro-life after only three decades or so (which raises the question of just how dim you have to be not to have noticed). And it is even harder to explain these lies away, given that two of the women are mother and daughter.

Next time they should put the word "dramatization" on the spot to let the rubes know the ladies aren't really Republican. Like those spots where the voice over dude is described as "a non attorney spokesperson."

The evidence mounts this cheap Chicago hack is willing to say anything, do anything to be re-elected. The second in command of his campaign suggested Romney was a felon, then denied it. We went to the audio tape and there the b*tch was, saying Romney may have commited felonies. Well, only one kind of person commits felonies, right?

The risk he runs with a gutter campaign, utterly devoid of any mention of his record, is he may chip away at that generally favorable view the American people have of him. That he's really not any better than any other politician. And that "difference" has been a central part of his narrative. Something new. Transformative. Post racial. Bit by bit people will come to realize he's just a left wing Chicago ward healer. And a failure.
 
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