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The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

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Posters like joecct were flogging this nonsense earlier. I'm curious if he's proud of people like Gowdy, Pompeo, etc after this hearing or if he's humiliated. :D
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Twitter is a social media cesspool. Saying you communicate over Twitter is like saying you communicate of USCHO.
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I agree it's a cesspool, but that still didn't help prove your point on how it isn't communication yet e-mail is.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I agree it's a cesspool, but that still didn't help prove your point on how it isn't communication yet e-mail is.
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I took his comment to mean he doesn't think Twitter is human communication. Monkey, maybe.
 
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Kepler said:
No suit was every emptier than the Chimperor's. His election forever laid to rest the theory that the brains of a candidate matter.
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The Chimp went against The Stiff or Mr. Heinz Ketchup...I hate Hillary but she is way better than both. And Dubya had a name people knew...Rubio has zero name appeal.
 
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Handyman said:
The Chimp went against The Stiff or Mr. Heinz Ketchup...I hate Hillary but she is way better than both. And Dubya had a name people knew...Rubio has zero name appeal.
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No argument. I'm only saying that Dubya's election showed a candidate can be a borderline imbecile and still win.
 
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Kepler said:
No argument. I'm only saying that Dubya's election showed a candidate can be a borderline imbecile and still win.
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You're shortchanging W's political skills. Yes he was a moron but he had an ability to connect with both the base of angry white people and the big money campaign contributors looking for tax cuts or defense spending dollars. The problem now is even if a candidate could unite those two factions, they've dwindled too much to get you over the finish line.
 
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Rover said:
Yes he was a moron but he had an ability to connect with both the base of angry white people and the big money campaign contributors looking for tax cuts or defense spending dollars. The problem now is even if a candidate could unite those two factions, they've dwindled too much to get you over the finish line.
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They can still deliver a House majority, though. The Great Dying of hard righties is an existential threat to the knucks, but it proceeds on a glacial time scale. In the meantime, as long as voter suppression measures are upheld by the courts, the Republicans ought to be able to hold on to a large enough bloc in each chamber to sabotage the country, and then turn the anger caused by that inaction into more resentment and more votes form its base. It's a terrible long-term strategy, but at the tactical level it works (kind of).
 
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Ryan may want to rethink becoming Speaker.

Earlier this week, Boehner and other GOP leaders were prepared to start the inevitable game of legislative volleyball with the Senate: They would put a bill on the floor as soon as Friday that would raise the debt ceiling through early 2017, plus make sweeping changes to the annual congressional budget process.

That proposal, dubbed the “Terms of Credit Act,” bore the imprimatur of the Republican Study Committee and appeared to be an ideal conservative starting point for demanding concessions as a condition of extending the nation’s borrowing authority — before Republicans would ultimately have to swallow a “clean” bill.

However, a whip count Wednesday night showed the RSC measure didn’t have the GOP votes to proceed.
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That's bad news, folks.
 
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Kepler said:
They can still deliver a House majority, though. The Great Dying of hard righties is an existential threat to the knucks, but it proceeds on a glacial time scale. In the meantime, as long as voter suppression measures are upheld by the courts, the Republicans ought to be able to hold on to a large enough bloc in each chamber to sabotage the country, and then turn the anger caused by that inaction into more resentment and more votes form its base. It's a terrible long-term strategy, but at the tactical level it works (kind of).
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Regarding the House, Dems need to play hardball. States of Florida, Ohio, and Michigan allow for citizens ballot initiatives. Put question on ballot in time for 2016 general election to take redisctricting out of partisan hands and into independent commission. Lawsuit in FL has thus far been successful. Keep pursuing VA and TX ones. Netting a seat or two here and there is crucial, given that there's 26 Goopers sitting in Obama seats in a 30 seat majority.
 
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Rover said:
Regarding the House, Dems need to play hardball. States of Florida, Ohio, and Michigan allow for citizens ballot initiatives. Put question on ballot in time for 2016 general election to take redisctricting out of partisan hands and into independent commission. Lawsuit in FL has thus far been successful. Keep pursuing VA and TX ones. Netting a seat or two here and there is crucial, given that there's 26 Goopers sitting in Obama seats in a 30 seat majority.
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None of it matters of we don't capture state legs. I wish we had non-partisan district drawing in every state, but in the short term at least it's foolish to pin all our hopes on what is a very slow, politically vicious, trudge through blood and quicksand.

Here is the composition of current legs.

Here are the 2016 swing states:

NV: straight R
CO: Split, D adv
IA: Split, R adv
OH: Straight R
VA: Split, no adv
FL: Straight R
NH: Split, no adv

Bad news for the good guys. Overall it's even worse. In state legs, R controls 30, D controls 11, the rest are split. That's a huge systemic advantage for the bad guys when it comes time to draw districts, and it results in stuff like the Democrats having a one million vote advantage in Congressional elections in 2014 and still being a voiceless minority in the House. Likewise R has 31 governorships, and we've seen how that is shortening the Dem bench both for president and also Senate races.
 
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Rover said:
You're shortchanging W's political skills. Yes he was a moron but he had an ability to connect with both the base of angry white people and the big money campaign contributors looking for tax cuts or defense spending dollars. The problem now is even if a candidate could unite those two factions, they've dwindled too much to get you over the finish line.
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Not to mention, he had the Xtians believing he was a godfearing bible thumper despite being a coked out partier. The man could play the game...
 
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