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The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

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ScoobyDoo said:
Yeah, that's fair. But, personally I don't care if the entire law is slanted the women's direction.
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I'm with you on that. Just today someone posted on Facebook a recent quote from Ruth Bader Ginsburg that I hadn't seen before, "People ask me sometimes, when — when do you think it will it be enough? When will there be enough women on the court? And my answer is when there are nine."

Sounds bizarre, right? And that's the point. For 194 years (1787-1981) the Supreme Court was 100% men, and for the vast majority of that time, the vast majority of people never gave it a second thought. Women won't have truly "arrived" until someone can casually mention the possibility of an all-women Supreme Court and the response is, "Yeah, so?"
 
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LynahFan said:
I'm with you on that. Just today someone posted on Facebook a recent quote from Ruth Bader Ginsburg that I hadn't seen before, "People ask me sometimes, when — when do you think it will it be enough? When will there be enough women on the court? And my answer is when there are nine."

Sounds bizarre, right? And that's the point. For 194 years (1787-1981) the Supreme Court was 100% men, and for the vast majority of that time, the vast majority of people never gave it a second thought. Women won't have truly "arrived" until someone can casually mention the possibility of an all-women Supreme Court and the response is, "Yeah, so?"
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We're kinda, sorta there on religion. There are zero Protestants on the Court. When I first read that I think I did a dodeca-take.

First Muslim on the Court? I'm saying about...
 
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LynahFan said:
Women won't have truly "arrived" until someone can casually mention the possibility of an all-women Supreme Court and the response is, "Yeah, so?"
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One of the ways in which advocacy groups for oppressed people are constantly slandered is when people from the formerly oppressing group scream that they want to "turn the tables," when in reality all they want is for the characteristic to no longer matter.
 
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Kepler said:
One of the ways in which advocacy groups for oppressed people are constantly slandered is when people from the formerly oppressing group scream that they want to "turn the tables," when in reality all they want is for the characteristic to no longer matter.
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They want it to no longer matter by making it matter... Is it just me, or does that not make any logical sense whatsoever?
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
They want it to no longer matter by making it matter... Is it just me, or does that not make any logical sense whatsoever?
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I don't get what you're saying. :confused:

Seems like the principle is straightforward: if you hate these groups so much, stop discriminating and they'll go away. You can't continue to treat people unequally and then when they point that out say, "See? Always with the complaining!" :rolleyes:
 
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Kepler said:
I don't get what you're saying. :confused:

Seems like the principle is straightforward: if you hate these groups so much, stop discriminating and they'll go away. You can't continue to treat people unequally and then when they point that out say, "See? Always with the complaining!" :rolleyes:
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It was mentioned a ways back that Ginsburg wouldn't be happy until every justice was a woman. That sounds like a sexist to me, and if she's trying to garner equality through sexism, that's like dividing wealth in order to multiply it. There's no logical sense.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It was mentioned a ways back that Ginsburg wouldn't be happy until every justice was a woman. That sounds like a sexist to me, and if she's trying to garner equality through sexism, that's like dividing wealth in order to multiply it. There's no logical sense.
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I don't think you got RBG's joke.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
It was mentioned a ways back that Ginsburg wouldn't be happy until every justice was a woman. That sounds like a sexist to me, and if she's trying to garner equality through sexism, that's like dividing wealth in order to multiply it. There's no logical sense.
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Do you even live on this planet?
 
Kepler said:
Good luck to him. (It's obviously going nowhere, but we can dream about being a free people again someday.)
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Needs a high profile R co sponsor to get off the mat. Even if it did pass through Congress, do you think any President would sign it?

Bernie?
 
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Kepler said:
Good luck to him. (It's obviously going nowhere, but we can dream about being a free people again someday.)
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"You'll see that better future, Matt... but it ain't for the likes of us." -Jim Raynor, StarCraft 2: Wings of Liberty

(followed by an instrumental segment of my favorite hymn)
 
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joecct said:
Needs a high profile R co sponsor to get off the mat. Even if it did pass through Congress, do you think any President would sign it?

Bernie?
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Obama would never sign it, which is one of the things I do not like about Obama.

This is a great opportunity for a Liberal / Libertarian coalition to separate them from the traditional Dem / GOP lunkheads. But I'm still dreaming of an Occupy / Tea Party alliance, so don't mind me, I'll be off in the corner smoking crayons.
 
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Kepler said:
Obama would never sign it, which is one of the things I do not like about Obama.

This is a great opportunity for a Liberal / Libertarian coalition to separate them from the traditional Dem / GOP lunkheads. But I'm still dreaming of an Occupy / Tea Party alliance, so don't mind me, I'll be off in the corner smoking crayons.
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Hey, you never know. It happened when the country changed over from the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution. Both sides have some halfway decent ideas; perhaps it's now time to pick and choose what can be executed and come up with something.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
Hey, you never know. It happened when the country changed over from the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution. Both sides have some halfway decent ideas; perhaps it's now time to pick and choose what can be executed and come up with something.
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what or who? :)
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Hey, you never know. It happened when the country changed over from the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution. Both sides have some halfway decent ideas; perhaps it's now time to pick and choose what can be executed and come up with something.
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Can you imagine a Constitutional Convention under present circumstances?

I cannot envision a circumstance under which it would be better for the country to actually throw out and rewrite the Constitution, up to and including splitting into the two nations we always should have been. Better a thousand years of tyranny than one night with the current Congress rewriting the Constitution.
 
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