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The 114th Congress: How Low Can They Go?

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What are these people going to do when McCarthy follows Boehner's tactics? A fair number of them have to be itching to start a third party. They should be encouraged.
 
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Kepler said:
OTOH, when the guy who holds HUAC hearings to criminalize being Muslim says you're crazy...

I have to think we've reached the very bottom. The age old dream of giving a megaphone to everybody, no matter how ignorant, stupid or irresponsible has been achieved. From now on it should get slowly better. Right? The novelty of the nutters will wear off and average people will begin to ignore them. Imperceptibly they'll lose market share in the forum of ideas, and eventually they'll be pushed back under their rocks.

Right?
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You just go on believing that Kep! ;) Are you SURE you don't work for the media?

Regarding 3rd party for nutters - why should they? Why go through all that trouble to set up your own apparatus in 50 states, when you're the majority of an existing major party? Just kick the few remaining Establishment dinosaurs out and you're running the show. Already they're going for a House takeover. How much longer do Itch and Cornyn - two old school fossils - have with Ted Cruz pretty much running the show over there. Remember - you only need half the GOP Senate to be Majority Leader. If there's not 27 Teabaggers in the Senate by now, I'll bet they're real close.
 
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Rover said:
Already they're going for a House takeover.
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Are you referring to Scalise? He just got kicked in a very sensitive spot.

It's interesting that the TPers aren't even mounting a challenge to McCarthy. They're going to come out of this "coup" with nothing.

By the way, there are 16 TPers in the Senate. To have half of half plus one they need 26. Plus they get no more elections to run against the Scary Black Man.

I think they blew it.
 
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Kepler said:
Are you referring to Scalise? He just got kicked in a very sensitive spot.

It's interesting that the TPers aren't even mounting a challenge to McCarthy. They're going to come out of this "coup" with nothing.

By the way, there are 16 TPers in the Senate. To have half of half plus one they need 26. Plus they get no more elections to run against the Scary Black Man.

I think they blew it.
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No point in going after McCarthy now. Let him negotiate the budget extension in Dec (I believe despite what you posted the "plan" is still a two month extension) and then watch the fireworks begin.

Only 16 in the Senate? I'm surprised. Put it another way, who's clearly not aligned with the TP even if they aren't officially in the group (people like Toomey). Collins, Murkowski, McCain, Flake, Hatch, Cochrane, Corker, Alexander, McConnell, Ayotte. All these people have either already been targeted or sit in states too blue to get away with too close of an association. Ayotte is gone after next year. Collins won't stay forever and I doubt her seat goes to a raving lunatic LePage notwithstanding. Who else am I missing? A guy like Cornyn or Isaacson can clearly switch their stripes as needed. People like Sessions or Vitter may pre-date the movement but they're an ideological fit.
 
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Rover said:
No point in going after McCarthy now. Let him negotiate the budget extension in Dec (I believe despite what you posted the "plan" is still a two month extension) and then watch the fireworks begin.
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A two-month extension would align it with the debt ceiling deadline. I think that would be foolish for either side: the anarchists lose a chance to pose for the cameras twice, and the establishment types not only give the crazies the plunger but also the dynamite. Their Wall Street puppet-masters aint gonna like that.
 
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Calm before the storm. Senate now can't stop House from passing resolution since Boner will make deal with Dems. Give it two months so we can do this all over again as primary season looms right around the corner! McCarthy if he's the new Speaker can't make same deal unless he plans on retiring too.
 
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Rover said:
Calm before the storm. Senate now can't stop House from passing resolution since Boner will make deal with Dems. Give it two months so we can do this all over again as primary season looms right around the corner! McCarthy if he's the new Speaker can't make same deal unless he plans on retiring too.
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Temper Tantrum Ted and the Tea Toddlers want their moment. They think they can immanentize the eschaton by cutting off Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program heating oil credits for Christmas.

That will be a winner at the ballot box.
 
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I'm not sure why Boner and Itch didn't team up to push the CR until next Oct which Kep mentioned as the end of the fiscal year earlier. Yeah, that's at the end of the general election but at that point its easy to tell the crazies "Lets put this off until January when Ted Cruz is President" and they might grumble but it goes through.

Regarding other stuff like immigration, I know a lot of lamestream media members have a soft spot for the old drunk, but The Impotent Boner has little in the way of political savvy. 2 years ago after the Senate overwhelmingly passed an immigration bill he should have quietly gone to a handful of Northeast moderates in the House plus some retiring members and told them to sign that discharge petition the Dems were circulating. One week 5 sign up. Then another 5 the next week and so on. In the meantime he could rail in public against the effort but then go to the knuckledraggers and say "if we don't make a deal, they're going to get enough signatures to get the Senate bill approved". Assuming he actually cares to tackle this issue of course. Maybe because his brain has been pickled by too much gin, or because he can't stop crying, this never happened because the man just doesn't have the skills to pull it off.
 
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I had no idea Broun was gone. Maybe there is a benevolent supreme being.

The Republican leadership put Broun ("evolution is a lie from the pit of hell") on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee.
 
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joecct said:
Rumor - denied by his office, says Gowdy will retire at the end of this session.
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Which ought to tell you all you need to know about his "investigation". If the guy thought he was going to uncover anything, he wouldn't be looking for an exit with a year and a half left in his term. :rolleyes:

Sorta reminds me of when Ken Starr tried to ditch his job for a law school dean position in the middle of his so called investigation.
 
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Tell me again how there's no GOP war on women?

Beating up on a woman testifying in front of Congress on her salary. That's just incredibly smart politics there.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) laid into Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) on Tuesday for grilling Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards over her salary -- something she suggested he wouldn't have done had Richards been a man.

Chaffetz had just finished needling Richards, who was testifying before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, about why her salary increased by more than $100,000 between 2009 and 2013. Maloney was not pleased.

"I first would like to register my opposition and my objection to the chairman beating up on a woman, on our witness today, for making a good salary," Maloney said.

"The entire time I've been in Congress, I've never seen a witness beaten up and questioned about their salary," she continued. "Ms. Richards heads a distinguished organization providing health care services to millions of Americans. I find it totally inappropriate and discriminatory."

As Maloney spoke, the camera panned to Chaffetz, who sat there with a weak smile on his face, fiddling with something on his desk. It was a long several seconds.
Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) later said the "disrespect" Chaffetz showed to Richards is reflective of a much broader problem Republicans have with women.

"My colleagues like to say there's no war on women. Look at how you've been treated as a witness," Connolly said. "Intimidation. Talking Over. Interrupting. Cutting off sentences. Criticizing you because of your salary. How dare you! Who do you think you are, making a professional salary as the head of a premier national organization and daring to actually make decisions as the head of that organization?"
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Good job, ******** (Chaffetz). Glad the people of your worthless state voted you in.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Tell me again how there's no GOP war on women?

Beating up on a woman testifying in front of Congress on her salary. That's just incredibly smart politics there.



Good job, ******** (Chaffetz). Glad the people of your worthless state voted you in.
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That's a load of bullsht. They're grilling her on her salary because it's a non-profit and they're trying to show that funding for PP is being somehow misused and not going towards reproductive health issues.

It's going to work on people who already don't like PP, but for the most part it's not going to do much.

This is just a load of liberal bullsh*t. If there was another non-profit that ran directly against the GOP (or for that matter the Ds), the opposing party would run the same lines out there. That she doesn't dangle has little to do with it.

The fact that she supports women's reproductive rights does.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
That's a load of bullsht. They're grilling her on her salary because it's a non-profit and they're trying to show that funding for PP is being somehow misused and not going towards reproductive health issues.

It's going to work on people who already don't like PP, but for the most part it's not going to do much.
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Funny. They don't grill other non-profit CEO's salaries when they're male.
 
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