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The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

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Congress just voted not to increase the debt ceiling.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Congress just voted not to increase the debt ceiling.

Every time they have a meaningless vote, it ought to come out of their paychecks.

It's not like they need those paychecks anyway. They can just wear whoever bought them on their suits like NASCAR racers.
 
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Every time they have a meaningless vote, it ought to come out of their paychecks.

It's not like they need those paychecks anyway. They can just wear whoever bought them on their suits like NASCAR racers.

The irony is that the sponsors pay for real votes. These meaningless ones are what they perform to market themselves to Joe average voter.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Congress just voted not to increase the debt ceiling.
Actually, just the House. We ought to tie a (color) ribbon around the Capitol until they fix this fiscal mess.

Steppenwolf's Monster is even more relevant 40 years later.
 
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The irony is that the sponsors pay for real votes. These meaningless ones are what they perform to market themselves to Joe average voter.
Sponsors can also pay them not to vote on anything with a real impact if they want to keep things as is.

That'd really explain all the attention that abortion, gays, and prayer in schools has gotten over the years.
 
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Sponsors can also pay them not to vote on anything with a real impact if they want to keep things as is.

That'd really explain all the attention that abortion, gays, and prayer in schools has gotten over the years.

It's almost as if you suggest Republican businessmen, politicians and media, usually products of the same liberal, pro-choice, agnostic intellectual tradition as Democratic businessmen, politicians and media, are only playing a cynical game to farm votes and gain power to further their own personal economic interests. And that's really a shocking idea.
 
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Pulled this from fark.com

http://www.opencongress.org/article...solution-from-the-Floor-Because-it-Might-Pass

A vote was scheduled on Kucinich's bill, which would have directed President Obama to remove American forces from Libya per the War Powers Act.

The vote was tabled by the GOP leadership once they realized it had a better than average chance at passing.

Can't make this **** up.

Was just coming here to post this. Jesus.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Pulled this from fark.com

http://www.opencongress.org/article...solution-from-the-Floor-Because-it-Might-Pass

A vote was scheduled on Kucinich's bill, which would have directed President Obama to remove American forces from Libya per the War Powers Act.

The vote was tabled by the GOP leadership once they realized it had a better than average chance at passing.

Can't make this **** up.

I'm sure that was the lead story on the national news tonight, right?
 
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While the media was focused on Weiner's weiner, they missed the House redefining rape

In a 251 to 175 vote this evening, 16 anti-choice Democrats joined every House Republican present in passing H.R. 3, the No Taxpayer Funding For Abortion Act. A chief weapon in the House GOP’s “comprehensive assault” on women this bill proposes some of the most radical and draconian restrictions on women’s rights. They include:

– Redefinition Of Rape: The bill sponsor Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) faced serious backlash after he tried to narrow the definition rape to “forcible rape.” By narrowing the rape and incest exception in the Hyde Amendment, Smith sought to prevent the following situations from consideration: Women who say no but do not physically fight off the perpetrator, women who are drugged or verbally threatened and raped, and minors impregnated by adults.

Smith promised to remove the language and while it is not technically in the bill, Mother Jones reports that House Republicans used “a sly legislative maneuver” to insert a “backdoor reintroduction” of redefinition language. Essentially, if the bill is challenged in court, judges will look at the congressional committee report to determine intent. The committee report for H.R. 3 says the bill will “not allow the Federal Government to subsidize abortions in cases of statutory rape” — thus excluding statutory rape-related abortions from Medicaid coverage.

– Tax Increase On Women And Small Businesses: H.R. 3 prevents women from using “itemized medical deductions, certain tax-advantaged health care accounts or tax credits included in last year’s health care law to pay for abortions or for health insurance plans that cover abortion.” In doing so, the bill forces women and small businesses that provide health insurance that covers abortion to pay more in taxes than they would otherwise. Both economic conservative Grover Norquist and the South Carolina Chamber of Commerce noted that the bill is basically a tax increase.

– Rape Audits: Because H.R. 3 bans using tax credits or deductions to pay for abortions or insurance, a woman who used such a benefit would have to prove, if audited, that her abortion “fell under the rape/incest/life-of-the-mother exception, or that the health insurance she had purchased did not cover abortions.” Essentially, the bill turns Internal Revenue Service agents into “abortion cops” who would force women to give “contemporaneous written documentation” that it was “incest, or rape, or [her] life was in danger” that compelled an abortion.

Smaller government?
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

While the media was focused on Weiner's weiner, they missed the House redefining rape



Smaller government?
My first thought-And of course they will take full financial responsibility for the children produced- food stamps, Wic, head start, various education initiatives, etc (Oh, I forgot they want to decrease all that too) so the woman isn't raped twice by then having to financially support the product of being assaulted.

Such a conundrum- legislate to make sure the populace makes more children but then do absolutely nothing to ensure they will have a chance to be productive members of society other than assure everyone that the parents should make it work (when many of them can't do it themselves). Pardon the brief burst of cynicism.

In all seriousness I have a difficult time with having someone tell me I don't have personal choice regarding termination eve though I wouldn't make that choice for myself. It really baffles me that the same people who are insistant that reproduction should occur seem to have no thought about what happens to the child produced. If you feel the 'Christian responsibility' to protect that life where is the 'Christian responsibility' to support the widows and the children. Why then is there no initiative to make that life less futile? If there was any of that I could buy the motivation for the rest even if I didn't like it.
 
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