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The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

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This doesn't really answer my question. When I ask whether school districts are typically union shops, what I mean is, do teachers normally HAVE to join the union. I imagine all (or very close to it) public school districts have unions negotiating for them. But in every case I have been part of, whether or not you join that union is up to you.

From my experience you'll automatically (have to) join the union. And union dues are deducted from your pay. IF it's a union position (full time teacher etc..) instead of part-time or temp.

Anchorage Council of Education/American Federation of Teachers, Local 4425 (ACE)
 
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This doesn't really answer my question.

Ha. maybe you should apply up here, city "found" several million so they didn't have to cut the bloated school budget. So they might be hiring instead of firing.

Starting wage is $45k for BA with 0 yr experience.

http://www.asdk12.org/depts/hr/employment/salary.asp
2011-12 Teachers' Salary Schedule

Your earnings from this job are not covered under Social Security. When you are hired you will be required to sign an SSA 1945 form; for more information see the SSA1945 form.
BA BA18 BA36 ME54 ME72 ME90
0 45,611 47,883 50,153 52,425 54,696 56,967
1 46,849 49,121 51,393 53,663 55,935 58,207
2 48,089 50,360 52,631 54,903 57,173 59,445
3 49,327 51,599 53,870 56,141 58,413 60,685
 
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I don't have a dog in that fight, and I don't care about the semantics of whether it was "undersold" or "significantly undersold." Have that discussion on your own...

So you'll say the difference is significent, but you won't say it was significently undersold...ok...:confused:
 
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So you'll say the difference is significent, but you won't say it was significently undersold...ok...:confused:
One does not necessarily imply the other. Did they sell it as "17% is the rate, by God, and we know for an an absolute fact that it will never have to increase," or did they sell it as, "my initial proposal is 17%, but we'll have to see how things work out over the next decade or so, and there may be a need to adjust the rate based on what happens."?

Both are 17% proposals, both have "significant" differences from 23%, and yet one is "significantly undersold" and the other is not. See?
 
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From my experience you'll automatically (have to) join the union. And union dues are deducted from your pay. IF it's a union position (full time teacher etc..) instead of part-time or temp.

I know teachers not in the union, but they are few and far between.
 
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Caught this one off of Fark. Apparently at least some people think we should be cutting the NOAA and its parent agency, the National Weather Service, to save money. Because who needs advance warning of impending weather when you can look outside your window?

Fox News Editorial
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Caught this one off of Fark. Apparently at least some people think we should be cutting the NOAA and its parent agency, the National Weather Service, to save money. Because who needs advance warning of impending weather when you can look outside your window?

Fox News Editorial

Cut it. It's waste. Buffett needs another tax cut.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Caught this one off of Fark. Apparently at least some people think we should be cutting the NOAA and its parent agency, the National Weather Service, to save money. Because who needs advance warning of impending weather when you can look outside your window?

Fox News Editorial

People are whining up here because the storm was overhyped?? They should be thankful the storm went west of us as I'm sure the folks in Vermont don't think it was overhyped.
 
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Currently sitting without power for probably 3-5 days. Neighbors have no phones too. Work has power but without the warning we would have lost all vaccines that went to a fridge on a generator overniight. The overhype is on the stupid side stories. No worries tho because I think we aren't funding the satellite program, last I heard, so they will have nothing to talk about in the next few yrs.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Caught this one off of Fark. Apparently at least some people think we should be cutting the NOAA and its parent agency, the National Weather Service, to save money. Because who needs advance warning of impending weather when you can look outside your window?

Fox News Editorial

Who could have foreseen the Republicans would try to politicize this? :rolleyes:
 
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Odd, the NWS is one of the things I truly believe the government does well.
 
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From my experience you'll automatically (have to) join the union. And union dues are deducted from your pay. IF it's a union position (full time teacher etc..) instead of part-time or temp.
I know for the 30 years or so my dad was a teacher, he had no choice. He strongly disliked the union, but he had to pay union dues. No choice. That was in Minnesota.
 
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I know for the 30 years or so my dad was a teacher, he had no choice. He strongly disliked the union, but he had to pay union dues. No choice. That was in Minnesota.

If it aint broke....


science-education-ranking-chart-110707b-02.jpg
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

The guy who stood on the beach while getting sprayed (unbeknownst to him) with raw sewage? That was hype.

The NWS issuing warnings for this storm, was obviously not hype in some locales.
 
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I'm not sure that one chart leads me to conclude that something, whatever specifically you are referencing (science education, union membership, Minnesota in general, or something else?) is or is not broken. But, I'd guess you're probably somehow crediting the unions for Minnesota ranking high on science education.
 
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Odd, the NWS is one of the things I truly believe the government does well.

The federal government does nothing well. Everyone knows that. Especially those running for the GOP nomination.

I'm not sure that one chart leads me to conclude that something, whatever specifically you are referencing (science education, union membership, Minnesota in general, or something else?) is or is not broken. But, I'd guess you're probably somehow crediting the unions for Minnesota ranking high on science education.

There's no question that unions are destroying education everywhere, Bob. You can see in that chart how it has systematically destroyed science and math education in Minnesota and Massachusetts. And it's no wonder folks are flocking to Texas.
 
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I'm not sure that one chart leads me to conclude that something, whatever specifically you are referencing (science education, union membership, Minnesota in general, or something else?) is or is not broken. But, I'd guess you're probably somehow crediting the unions for Minnesota ranking high on science education.

I'm saying if you've got a national top educational program...don't go making wholesale changes. And that would probably include its entire compensation structure.
 
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The federal government does nothing well. Everyone knows that. Especially those running for the GOP nomination.

There's no question that unions are destroying education everywhere, Bob. You can see in that chart how it has systematically destroyed science and math education in Minnesota and Massachusetts. And it's no wonder folks are flocking to Texas.
Guess I'll just throw out all that need to link cause and effect stuff they taught me in stats class (and elsewhere) and jump in on making that conclusion with you. I'm sure here in Arizona, we'd be nearly tops in education if we only unionized, regardless of our large Hisppanic, illegal, and Native American populations here.
 
Re: The 112th Congress: Debt ceiling edition

Guess I'll just throw out all that need to link cause and effect stuff they taught me in stats class (and elsewhere) and jump in on making that conclusion with you. I'm sure here in Arizona, we'd be nearly tops in education if we only unionized, regardless of our large Hisppanic, illegal, and Native American populations here.

Yeah, we don't have any of that up here. You're right. I'm sure that what's wrong with Texas and Mississippi there on the bottom.
 
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