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The 112th Congress - A Congress divided shall not cry!

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If these types of waste are prevalent throughout the military

There may not really be that much "waste." I've worked with the DOD and they have a lot of mechanisms for auditing and cutting expense, and in every Cost Plus contract I have ever seen Cost Control makes up a significant part of what a contractor is graded on. Since Reagan, the operating principle of most government services is a quasi-private business model. Add to this that every administration is always trying to find and correct the "waste" of the prior administration but very little comes of it.

There are inefficiencies in government, but there's also no profit being skimmed off the top. Those things may well cancel out. The major problems with government are (1) a lack of an accountable trail for managers who move on to lead a different organization and (2) duplication between competing organizations who set up their own parallel structures. But again, both of these problems are replicated in the private sector.

The wars are an enormous waste, though, of course. The amount the former regime, and now the current, have wasted playing dime store De Tocqueville in Iraq likely dwarfs all the government waste in the history of the republic. And oh yeah a lot of people died needlessly, too.
 
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GOP freshmen not joining the Tea Party

Tea party groups were given considerable credit for the Republican success in last fall’s elections. But now that they are in Washington, the dozens of newly elected GOP lawmakers appear reluctant to formally identify themselves with the movement.

The House Tea Party Caucus, which appeared likely to see a dramatic expansion in the 112th Congress, has yet to recruit a new member from among the 87 freshman Republicans.

The new GOP lawmakers are opting instead to work through the older, much larger and not-quite-so-conservative Republican Study Committee (RSC). That group has grown by about 50 percent to 174 members, including 80 freshmen.
 
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Well said.

Across the board cuts when the funding for care of the Vets is inadequate to begin with is not something I am will ing to go along with because everyone else has cuts. The things that need to be cut are the 800$ toilet seats and the fluff. Unfortunately those are well entrenched and not the things that will disappear.

Is it a deal breaker though? Is it something where you might agree with 95% of the rest of the bill, but because of this, you're going to vote against it?

Cause while that's a perfectly acceptable position...as soon as one group gets preferential treatment everyone else will want it, too, for better or worse. The only way we're gonna be able to cut the budget is to probably just swing an axe, and then try to glue what we can back together afterwards. And that goes doubly so for the necessary tax increases.
 
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Is it a deal breaker though? Is it something where you might agree with 95% of the rest of the bill, but because of this, you're going to vote against it?

Me personally? No, it's not a deal breaker, particularly since my wife knows the Appropriations process so well I can just make it up on the back end. ;)

But I'm also not standing for re-election. (Well, I guess I am. Every damn day.)
 
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He was arrested and charged, and supposedly is still in custody. The guy who threatened a Democrat is too. What more do you want? Your side has insisted that there is no correlation between the rhetoric and the violence, so it can't be any rhetoric from the left...correct? Or is there only a connection when it suits you?
 
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He was arrested and charged, and supposedly is still in custody. The guy who threatened a Democrat is too. What more do you want? Your side has insisted that there is no correlation between the rhetoric and the violence, so it can't be any rhetoric from the left...correct? Or is there only a connection when it suits you?

Rhetoric is clearly to blame. Palin's rhetoric. I can't believe you can't connect these dots.
 
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Rhetoric is clearly to blame. Palin's rhetoric. I can't believe you can't connect these dots.

Oh good. Now you can connect the dots. Better late than never I guess.
 
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So glad jobs are the top priority of the GOP.

House GOP Prioritizes Tighter Abortion Funding Restrictions

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hous...ortion-funding-restrictions/story?id=12868394

With a Democratic majority in the Senate and President Obama in the White House, the measures are not likely to become law. But Republican leadership and House Speaker John Boehner have called the bill a "top legislative priority."

And of course my favorite part of the bill.

The language would have allowed for subsidized abortions only in cases of "forcible rape," and limited exempt cases of incest to only those involving minors.

Forcible rape? Seriously? That's language someone actually wrote? Isn't rape forcible always?

This country's leaders are a joke.
 
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Yeah, that's a stupid thing to do.

In happier news, the Patriot Act failed in the House today 277-148.

Edit: Hmmm. The vote was actually 277-148 in favor, which fell short of the 2/3 needed to pass under suspension. Which is a lot less impressive. End result is the same though I guess.
 
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So glad jobs are the top priority of the GOP.

House GOP Prioritizes Tighter Abortion Funding Restrictions

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hous...ortion-funding-restrictions/story?id=12868394



And of course my favorite part of the bill.



Forcible rape? Seriously? That's language someone actually wrote? Isn't rape forcible always?

This country's leaders are a joke.

The Daily Show had a segment on the rape thing, "forcible rape" will exclude the rape of drunk or drugged women, rape of the mentally handicapped, and statutory rape.
 
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The Daily Show had a segment on the rape thing, "forcible rape" will exclude the rape of drunk or drugged women, rape of the mentally handicapped, and statutory rape.

Yeah, I saw the segment. And Kristen Schaal is awesome.
 
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Thought you wanted less federal spending. Guess not.

Because this is actually a deficit reduction measure. It only looks like chum to arouse social conservatives.
 
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Because this is actually a deficit reduction measure. It only looks like chum to arouse social conservatives.

Bob's right. The Daily Show said that it would save about 2/100 of a cent for every taxpayer. If we abolish abortion we can save a lot of money. Especially if we make sure that we fix health care and not cover the new children that will result.
 
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Wouldn't it increase cost? It cost less than 1K for an abortion-one time event. 2-3K for OB care, if it is a blanket policy, for the Dr visits alone. That doesn't include the hosp labor & delivery costs, the labs, the ultrasounds, medicines, etc. If you look at some of the high risk pregnancies (medical and socioeconomic) that are terminated I would imagine that number could easily cost way more in utilization. Someone is paying that. Absolutely not making argument for AB, just don't see how it could save $ to not do it. You create more utilization and those who are born do not pay into the system for yrs. (Where is commie, he was making this argument in a different thread)
 
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