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Team Canada U18/U22/ Centralized Olympic Roster

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Red vs. White series, game 2 - Red 6, White 2

The White team opened the scoring, and then the Red team rattled off 5 consecutive goals.

Goals by Gillian Apps (White), Jayna Hefford (Red), Jenelle Kohanchuk (Red - 2 goals), Brigette Lacquette (Red), Rebecca Johnston (Red), Lauriane Rougeau (White - PPG), and Haley Irwin (Red). Irwin also had 2 assists, and Melodie Daoust (Red) had 3 assists.

In both games so far, the losing team has outshot the winning squad by a fair margin (33-22 Red in Game 1, 39-22 White in Game 2).
 
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Game 3 - White 2, Red 1 (SO)

White opened the scoring with a late first-period power-play goal by Meghan Agosta-Marciano (assists to Kelly Terry and Lauriane Rougeau), and Red tied it up with just under 3 minutes left in the second period when Cayley Mercer scored (assists to Tessa Bonhomme & Nicole Kosta).

Shootout results:
WHT Caroline Ouellette GOAL
RED Haley Irwin GOAL
WHT Hayley Wickenheiser NO GOAL
RED Marie-Philip Poulin NO GOAL
WHT Meghan Agosta-Marciano GOAL
RED Natalie Spooner NO GOAL

Like the first two games, the losing team had more shots on goal. Unlike the first two games, they were pretty even at 26-24 Red.
 
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CrazyDave said:
Game 3 - White 2, Red 1 (SO)

White opened the scoring with a late first-period power-play goal by Meghan Agosta-Marciano (assists to Kelly Terry and Lauriane Rougeau), and Red tied it up with just under 3 minutes left in the second period when Cayley Mercer scored (assists to Tessa Bonhomme & Nicole Kosta).

Shootout results:
WHT Caroline Ouellette GOAL
RED Haley Irwin GOAL
WHT Hayley Wickenheiser NO GOAL
RED Marie-Philip Poulin NO GOAL
WHT Meghan Agosta-Marciano GOAL
RED Natalie Spooner NO GOAL

Like the first two games, the losing team had more shots on goal. Unlike the first two games, they were pretty even at 26-24 Red.
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I am certain the Clarkson scorer was senior CARLEY Mercer, not her sister Cayley who is a Clarkson soph who did not play last year due to a knee injury.
 
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vicb said:
I am certain the Clarkson scorer was senior CARLEY Mercer, not her sister Cayley who is a Clarkson soph who did not play last year due to a knee injury.
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I've been burned by only using a single source of information before, but in this case it (Hockey Canada's website) is the only source of information. Both the box score and the game recap said "Cayley" (and they still do).

I think both Hockey Canada and USA Hockey must have the interns doing their respective women's national team website updates -- my impression is that mistakes and oversights have been increasing.
 
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CrazyDave said:
I've been burned by only using a single source of information before, but in this case it (Hockey Canada's website) is the only source of information. Both the box score and the game recap said "Cayley" (and they still do).

I think both Hockey Canada and USA Hockey must have the interns doing their respective women's national team website updates -- my impression is that mistakes and oversights have been increasing.
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I agree. Earlier in the year they had Cornells Jillian Saulnier listed as a Clarkson player (I only wish) :)
 
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Was great to follow the CWHL draft the other night. Any ideas when teams are going to start camp? Many opportunities for players to compete this year with the centralization of the top CWHL players. Should be an exciting year.
 
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anybody else getting the feeling that once again the Canadians are outsmarting Team USA?
in addition to the recent intra-squad scrimmages, they are going to Sochi next week for some games

gathering together all those mostly US college players (and possible future national team members) and taking the cream of the crop to assemble two teams that could play each other was brilliant, very efficient use of the players time for one, they are done in time to return to school

US couldn't do that because we don't have the money? not creative enough management? ...?
 
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pokechecker said:
... gathering together all those mostly US college players (and possible future national team members) and taking the cream of the crop to assemble two teams that could play each other was brilliant, very efficient use of the players time for one, they are done in time to return to school

US couldn't do that because we don't have the money? not creative enough management? ...?
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Isn't that essentially what the US did before announcing the centralization roster? I think the only difference is the timing of when the scrimmages were played, and given the Olympics are still many months out, that shouldn't be a large factor.
 
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ARM said:
Isn't that essentially what the US did before announcing the centralization roster? I think the only difference is the timing of when the scrimmages were played, and given the Olympics are still many months out, that shouldn't be a large factor.
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no it isn't

the US had the scrimmages, then picked the team

Canada picked the team and then had the scrimmages
the difference?
the medal round is a high pressure situation, win or you've lost, there is no do over or second chance. Many here mentioned that the Canadians were maybe giving a second look at players, and maybe they were.
But just as importantly, maybe more so, the Olympic team members were placed in a high stress/pressure situation
play well or some young gun may take your place
I'm sure it wasn't just for the coaches to see how they'd respond
the players too know how they responded and have plenty of time to make adjustments
was my pregame preparation correct? what can I do better? did I sleep/eat right? ....

same for going to Sochi, they will learn a lot there (as will the Ruskies)

maybe it has been a long time since a Canadian city has won the Cup
but in those American cities, who are the coaches, the GM
Canada has many generations of experience at putting together a championship run
what does the US have? other than a departed genius?
come to think of it, it is the same in college
How many championships have been won by an American coach?

and that may be the problem, we put a lot into one person
Smith is a genius (98) whoops, no he's not (06)
Johnson is a genius (pre 2010) maybe not (2010)
with the Canadians it seems to be more of a group effort
I'm not saying our coaches aren't as good
that's not the case at all
 
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pokechecker said:
the US had the scrimmages, then picked the team

Canada picked the team and then had the scrimmages
the difference?
the medal round is a high pressure situation, win or you've lost, there is no do over or second chance. Many here mentioned that the Canadians were maybe giving a second look at players, and maybe they were.
But just as importantly, maybe more so, the Olympic team members were placed in a high stress/pressure situation
play well or some young gun may take your place
I'm sure it wasn't just for the coaches to see how they'd respond
the players too know how they responded and have plenty of time to make adjustments
was my pregame preparation correct? what can I do better? did I sleep/eat right?
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Don't agree with your logic. To me the scrimmage as part of a selection process is more of a pressure cooker than a post selection scrimmage of already chosen teams.

Me thinks you are reading too much into things.

Each scrimmage has it's pro's and con's, but there is value to both. Don't think you can place a whole lot of value one way or the other to the scrimmages other than to evaluate the players and where they are at in the development/readiness stage. Head to head competition is what will really tell the tale.

As a canuck, hate to say it, but my betting money is on the US to win next year and not the canucks. This is based on what I've seen with my own eyes the last two years. My heart and soul will be with the Canucks, but can't see them being the favorites going in.
 
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OnMAA said:
Don't agree with your logic.
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that's fine everyone is entitled to their opinion, I didn't say the Canadians ARE outsmarting the US, I ASKED if anyone else thought they were

subtle differences can result in a big difference, the subtle difference in location of words in a statement for example results in the difference between asking and saying for example.

and you don't think going to Sochi next week is part of the preparatory plan? If the US goes in November (or whenever, or not at all) there is no difference? staying home and playing someone else would have the same result in preparation?
 
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pokechecker said:
no it isn't

the US had the scrimmages, then picked the team

Canada picked the team and then had the scrimmages
the difference?
the medal round is a high pressure situation, win or you've lost, there is no do over or second chance. Many here mentioned that the Canadians were maybe giving a second look at players, and maybe they were.
But just as importantly, maybe more so, the Olympic team members were placed in a high stress/pressure situation
play well or some young gun may take your place
I'm sure it wasn't just for the coaches to see how they'd respond
the players too know how they responded and have plenty of time to make adjustments
was my pregame preparation correct? what can I do better? did I sleep/eat right? ....

same for going to Sochi, they will learn a lot there (as will the Ruskies)

maybe it has been a long time since a Canadian city has won the Cup
but in those American cities, who are the coaches, the GM
Canada has many generations of experience at putting together a championship run
what does the US have? other than a departed genius?
come to think of it, it is the same in college
How many championships have been won by an American coach?and that may be the problem, we put a lot into one person
Smith is a genius (98) whoops, no he's not (06)
Johnson is a genius (pre 2010) maybe not (2010)
with the Canadians it seems to be more of a group effort
I'm not saying our coaches aren't as good
that's not the case at all
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This is what I could come up with in short order on American coaches who have won NCAA titiles

Jerry York - 4
Jack Parker - 3
Herb Brooks - 3
Bob Johnson - 3
Dean Blais - 2
Don Lucia - 2
Jeff Sauer - 2
 
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