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Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

All I will say on Lebanon Valley is that sometimes you need to hit rock bottom to realize what you need to do to create a successful program. The Aud may be nice and all, I'm not sure the Hersheypark Arena is that much of a drop off tho....that's if they don't have plans to build their own rink instead of traveling the 9 miles from campus...(btw how far is Murray from EC? yea thought so).....

As far as Stevenson goes, they have a pretty decent athletic program at the University. Ranked in a lot of sports. If they can support their men's hockey team like they do their other sports, they will be just fine. Oh and I believe their "independent" womens team (16-8-1) came up and played Utica ...how'd that go?

Sure we would all love 8 teams with in 30 miles, 16 team tournaments, multi-game series, and partridge in a pear tree....but
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

PSUChamps2001 said:
All I will say on Lebanon Valley is that sometimes you need to hit rock bottom to realize what you need to do to create a successful program. The Aud may be nice and all, I'm not sure the Hersheypark Arena is that much of a drop off tho....that's if they don't have plans to build their own rink instead of traveling the 9 miles from campus...(btw how far is Murray from EC? yea thought so).....

As far as Stevenson goes, they have a pretty decent athletic program at the University. Ranked in a lot of sports. If they can support their men's hockey team like they do their other sports, they will be just fine. Oh and I believe their "independent" womens team (16-8-1) came up and played Utica ...how'd that go?

Sure we would all love 8 teams with in 30 miles, 16 team tournaments, multi-game series, and partridge in a pear tree....but
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Stevenson DOES need an on campus rink. Reisterstown is marginal for ECAC-W hockey. If they don't get one started within 2 years, the program will not be able to attract the recruits necessary to compete in the -W (Leb Valley 1.0 redux).
 
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joecct said:
Stevenson DOES need an on campus rink. Reisterstown is marginal for ECAC-W hockey. If they don't get one started within 2 years, the program will not be able to attract the recruits necessary to compete in the -W (Leb Valley 1.0 redux).
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The Reisterstown Sportsplex is Baltimore County's premier sports facility, providing high quality recreation programs and family entertainment. It is conveniently located at the end of I-795 in the Reisterstown Regional Park. This facility houses a 200 x 85 foot NHL ice rink.

Doesn't say it has seats ;)
 
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norm1909 said:
Apparently there are some seats.
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I went public skating there once when I was going to school in the area it seats about the same as Hobart, typical public rink set up that any hockey parent would know very typical community rink set-up. I think there is enough interest in hockey in the Baltimore area that an on-campus rink I know there are several small colleges with club teams that would love more stable homes like Towson.
 
UCAlum32 said:
I went public skating there once when I was going to school in the area it seats about the same as Hobart, typical public rink set up that any hockey parent would know very typical community rink set-up. I think there is enough interest in hockey in the Baltimore area that an on-campus rink I know there are several small colleges with club teams that would love more stable homes like Towson.
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There are a lot of HS that need a rink other than traveling out to Abingdon. The lack of available ice in the DC - Balt area is apalling.
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

norm1909 said:
Your case being that you have you no regard for the process? I disagree with the lack of transparency (particularly the "need" of keeping the final ranking secret), back when the NCAA screwed Adrian out of a bid, I showed my disdain for the process. But I never rejected the very valuable benefits of competing for an AQ. Yes, the DII schools face an even worse disadvantage, with NO chance at any bid. The "business" of getting into "the field of 11" is the goal of the DIII athlete, qualifying for the AQ should be the goal of the institution and its conference administrators - while they can't flick a magic wand, they can work at utilizing all available resources to getting the objective done - it need not be ideal - becoming ideal can be worked on after - meeting the publicized criteria is the best one can reasonably hope for.

THAT is my case.
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It's no secret that I have zero regard for the process, Larry. Not only is there no transparency, there aren't even any real "criteria", since the committee is free to do as it pleases without a shred of accountability. There's never going to be a perfect method to choosing the field, but a far, far, better option is already available.

(And I just referenced Plymouth because IIRC they were like the 38th team in the country when the got their bid this year... Not picking on them for accepting it!)
 
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Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Fishman'81 said:
It's no secret that I have zero regard for the process, Larry. Not only is there no transparency, there aren't even any real "criteria", since the committee is free to do as it pleases without a shred of accountability. There's never going to be a perfect method to choosing the field, but a far, far, better option is already available.

(And I just referenced Plymouth because IIRC they were like the 38th team in the country when the got their bid this year... Not picking on them for accepting it!)
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All the criteria for qualifying for the AQ is publicized - they are the only transparent bids.
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Wonder what will happen to the landscape when Pool C is scrapped as a cost savings measure (for all championships)?
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Fishman'81 said:
You're right about that... It's just that they aren't necessarily merited.
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The NCAA does NOT have much impact on who the conference sends (each conference has the choice of how to award its automatic bid) - beyond setting the institution's post-season eligibility requirements.
 
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joecct said:
Wonder what will happen to the landscape when Pool C is scrapped as a cost savings measure (for all championships)?
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Why would that happen, Joe? (It's an honest question, BTW; memorizing arbitrary D-3 by-laws is not my idea of a good use of time... That makes about as much sense as studying a religion.)

Anyhoo, Pool C is the (almost) saving-grace of the D-3 process. For the past few years, the Pool C selections have saved the bacon in terms of the credibility of the process, the 2014 Trinity exclusion being the only true recent outrage IIRC .
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Fishman'81 said:
Why would that happen, Joe? (It's an honest question, BTW; memorizing arbitrary D-3 by-laws is not my idea of a good use of time... That makes about as much sense as studying a religion.)

Anyhoo, Pool C is the (almost) saving-grace of the D-3 process. For the past few years, the Pool C selections have saved the bacon in terms of the credibility of the process, the 2014 Trinity exclusion being the only true recent outrage IIRC .
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It's been discussed as a possible cost-cutting plan. It would apply to all DIII sports... I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but it is certainly been filed away as an emergency plan.
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
It's been discussed as a possible cost-cutting plan. It would apply to all DIII sports... I don't think it's going to happen any time soon, but it is certainly been filed away as an emergency plan.
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I guess all those 40K tuitions don't quite cover the cost of an extra hockey game or two. Jeez Louise.
 
Re: Stevenson starts D-III men's hockey, joins ECAC West!

Fishman'81 said:
I guess all those 40K tuitions don't quite cover the cost of an extra hockey game or two. Jeez Louise.
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The issue is the NCAA DIII budget. They pay the costs for all the DIII tournaments out of the measly 3% of the the overall NCAA budget that the NCAA allocates to DIII, despite the fact that DIII is by far the largest division of the three.
 
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