Star Wars IX: rumors, spoilers beware!!!

[ericredaxe]

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Agree about the comment below about not thinking about the details.

Rewatch the emperors demise at the end of ROTJ.... he was vaporized and then the Death Star exploded.... so it is stupid to bring him back... but whatever. Enjoy the movie for what it is I guess.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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It's definitely better than 8. Agreed Finn's character was wasted. Also agree it was lame to bring back Palpatine as the final boss, and then there was that godd@mn fcking beam of light/sky portal/etc. trope I knew was gonna happen 3 minutes before it did, but whatever. Also, force healing is a thing now?

 

[The Rube]

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It's definitely better than 8. Agreed Finn's character was wasted. Also agree it was lame to bring back Palpatine as the final boss, and then there was that godd@mn fcking beam of light/sky portal/etc. trope I knew was gonna happen 3 minutes before it did, but whatever. Also, force healing is a thing now?

It's Sci-Fi. One line of dialogue or one simple action...boomfixed.

Think back to "Thank You For Not Smoking:"
Jeff Megall : [in his office] Sony has a futuristic sci-fi movie they're looking to make.

Nick Naylor : Cigarettes in space?

Jeff Megall : It's the final frontier, Nick.

Nick Naylor : But wouldn't they blow up in an all oxygen environment?

Jeff Megall : Probably. But it's an easy fix. One line of dialogue. 'Thank God we invented the... you know, whatever device.'

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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It's Sci-Fi. One line of dialogue or one simple action...boomfixed.

Think back to "Thank You For Not Smoking:"
Jeff Megall : [in his office] Sony has a futuristic sci-fi movie they're looking to make.

Nick Naylor : Cigarettes in space?

Jeff Megall : It's the final frontier, Nick.

Nick Naylor : But wouldn't they blow up in an all oxygen environment?

Jeff Megall : Probably. But it's an easy fix. One line of dialogue. 'Thank God we invented the... you know, whatever device.'

Deus ex machina. Lord knows Star Wars has always been chronic violator of that trope.

I mean, I guess Palps did technically tell Anakin that Plageius the Wise could stop people from dying, but I always assumed that was a lie he planted to turn him.

 

[ticapnews]

Also, force healing is a thing now?

Has been since 1977. Or did you think Obi-Wan was just waking Luke from a nap after the Sand People attacked?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Has been since 1977. Or did you think Obi-Wan was just waking Luke from a nap after the Sand People attacked?

In all fairness, it has been awhile since I saw the original trilogy.

 

[Handyman]

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Has been since 1977. Or did you think Obi-Wan was just waking Luke from a nap after the Sand People attacked?

That is exactly what I thought. That is also what everyone I know thought. I have never heard it suggested he "Force Healed" him.

I dont much care about it but it did sort of come out of left field so Mary Rey could show she is even cooler than you thought!!

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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That is exactly what I thought. That is also what everyone I know thought. I have never heard it suggested he "Force Healed" him.

I dont much care about it but it did sort of come out of left field so Mary Rey could show she is even cooler than you thought!!

I didn't have a problem with it and didn't think it came out of left field either. 8 established the force as all powerful, and I always figured Obi-Wan healed Luke with the force. It all flowed as far as I was concerned.

 

[BassAle]

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That is exactly what I thought. That is also what everyone I know thought. I have never heard it suggested he "Force Healed" him.

I dont much care about it but it did sort of come out of left field so Mary Rey could show she is even cooler than you thought!!

first he touches his wrist and then he gently places his hand over Luke's head and meditates for a moment (until he hears R2 and looks up). That's an odd way to wake someone up

 

[Handyman]

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Well he was just attacked by "Sand People" after buying robots from midgets in robes. I mean...

 

[ticapnews]

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Well he was just attacked by "Sand People" after buying robots from midgets in robes. I mean...

And he had just floated across the desert in a "speeder" so...

 

[solovsfett]

Has been since 1977. Or did you think Obi-Wan was just waking Luke from a nap after the Sand People attacked?

Also, Rey has ALL of the Jedi books so she could have read up on how to force heal?

 

[St. Clown]

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Also, Rey has ALL of the Jedi books so she could have read up on how to force heal?

No, she has all of the Jedi books from Ahch-To. The Jedi had a massive library at their temple, per those horrible prequel movies. Obi-Wan made a visit there, if you remember. Rey doesn't have those.

 

[ticapnews]

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Also, Rey has ALL of the Jedi books so she could have read up on how to force heal?

She has the "sacred Jedi texts"

I haven't seen this theory but I'm sure it is out there: When we see him at the end of TPM, Obi-Wan does not use the healing ability to save Qui-Gon Jinn. There are two possible reasons for that: He didn't know about the ability. He knew about it, but Jedi were not permitted to use it. During the infamous opera scene in RotS, Palpatine tells Anakin that he can learn how to save people but "not from a Jedi." It may have been viewed as "unnatural." In his time on Tatooine watching over Luke, Obi-Wan may have decided that - unnatural or not - he was going to use that ability if the situation ever arose again. When Luke is wounded (perhaps fatally) by Sand People, Obi-Wan uses the ability to heal him.

 

[solovsfett]

No, she has all of the Jedi books from Ahch-To. The Jedi had a massive library at their temple, per those horrible prequel movies. Obi-Wan made a visit there, if you remember. Rey doesn't have those.

Not sure what this means...there were movies outside of the OG trilogy and these new sequels???

 

[Handyman]

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And he had just floated across the desert in a "speeder" so...

Yeah that is my point. Bassale made it sound like it was weird to awaken someone by touching their head...I am saying that isnt as weird as anything else we accept in the film.

I already said the Force Healing thing wasnt a big deal but it is never an explicit power in any of the main universe stuff. And no Clone Wars and books dont count cause no one pays attention to that

 

[BassAle]

Yeah that is my point. Bassale made it sound like it was weird to awaken someone by touching their head...I am saying that isnt as weird as anything else we accept in the film.

I already said the Force Healing thing wasnt a big deal but it is never an explicit power in any of the main universe stuff. And no Clone Wars and books dont count cause no one pays attention to that

He put his hand over Luke’s eyes, barely touching him, and held them there until R2D2 interrupted. He didn’t shake him. He didn’t talk to him. I always took it to mean he was using some kind of force powers (well, after I’d seen it once and learned about the force).

I just watched this with my son a couple days ago because we were cleaning out a box of stuff and we found a VCR and the pre-special edition trilogy and he really wanted to watch (he’s 11 and has never seen the non “enhanced” versions or even used a VCR). This is pretty fresh in my mind. It definitely comes across as he’s doing “something” other than trying to wake him.

 

[St. Clown]

And no Clone Wars and books dont count cause no one pays attention to that

When you say that the Clone Wars don’t count, those started airing 12 years ago. The kids who were watching them are adults and know the show as well as they know the movies. They show may not matter for you because you’re old now, but a lot of younger adults know the show and liked it.

 

[Handyman]

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He put his hand over Luke’s eyes, barely touching him, and held them there until R2D2 interrupted. He didn’t shake him. He didn’t talk to him. I always took it to mean he was using some kind of force powers (well, after I’d seen it once and learned about the force).

I just watched this with my son a couple days ago because we were cleaning out a box of stuff and we found a VCR and the pre-special edition trilogy and he really wanted to watch (he’s 11 and has never seen the non “enhanced” versions or even used a VCR). This is pretty fresh in my mind. It definitely comes across as he’s doing “something” other than trying to wake him.

I always figured (after the first viewing obviously) that he kind of "force pushed" him or something. Connected to his mind somehow. I honestly never thought Luke was dead. I also didnt much care

 

[Handyman]

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When you say that the Clone Wars don’t count, those started airing 12 years ago. The kids who were watching them are adults and know the show as well as they know the movies. They show may not matter for you because you’re old now, but a lot of younger adults know the show and liked it.

I am not saying they dont matter for you and all the other people who watched them. I am saying the only things that matter for the movies are the things specifically mentioned in the movies.

For example people like to fill the plot holes in the last 2 films film with "oh well so and so mentioned in the Illustrated Guide that X happened" or "well in Rebels once Y character did [this] so that explains it!" and that is crap. I mean yeah it is cool for those of you who deal with all of that stuff...but these films are for wide audiences not just the nerds. The dwindling BO proves if you cater ONLY to those fans you will see diminishing returns.

I didnt mean to demean those shows or the fans of them (one of my best friends was obsessed with Clone Wars) just saying the failure of the Prequels and the Sequels to be able to tell a full story within their films and needing outside sources to fill in the gaps is mediocre storytelling, poor planning and is why they arent as good as the OT. (the insult is on Di$ney and Lucasfilm, not their fans) There is plenty of supplemental stuff for the OT (Shadow of the Empire being one of the best books of any of the now LEGENDS) but you dont have to read it to make Jedi make any sense.